About Radeon 9500 SoftModding !!!

edited August 2003 in Hardware
Hello, I brought Radeon 9500 and I want to softmode it !
how I can do this?

thanks. :)
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  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    Is it the Red PCB? What brand? What configuration is the memory on it...
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    If the PCB is red, and the memory is configured in an "L" shape, you have a 75% chance of success.
  • edited July 2003
    I got Hercules 3D Prophet 9500 Radeon 128MB
  • edited July 2003
    what you mean when you said:
    "PCB is red, and the memory is configured in an "L" shape" ?
    i have hercules phropet 9500 radeon card!
    I can do the softmod?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    That means nothing.

    They made two or three editions of the 9500 card. One will allow you to soft-mod, two won't.
  • edited July 2003
    what is the safest radeon 9500 card to do softmod?
  • MachineGunKellyMachineGunKelly The STICKS, Illinois
    edited July 2003
    First and foremost, It MUST have the ram chips in the locations shown like this:
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    gilad_o said
    what you mean when you said:
    "PCB is red, and the memory is configured in an "L" shape" ?
    i have hercules phropet 9500 radeon card!
    I can do the softmod?

    If you don't know what that means, I recommend against trying the softmod on your own.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    I concur with that statement.
  • edited July 2003
    Thrax what you ment when you said "pcb is red"?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    The card is red.
  • MachineGunKellyMachineGunKelly The STICKS, Illinois
    edited July 2003
    IF the ram is configured in this manner then it is 'possible' that you can perform the softmod. Then it comes down to whether or not you actually have the extra 4 rendering pipelines built into the card (that were dis-abled at the factory.
    THEN you need to get a couple of things....the correct hacked bios for your card AND the program that will allow you to perform the hack.
    IF, IF, it works you 'could' see about a 2,000 point increase in 3D 2001 se. If it doesn't your card could look like crap on the monitor.

    You still wanna try?
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    "PCB" is the Printed Circuit Board... the base of the card. If the card itself is red, and the four little black square memory modules are in an "L" shape (two above the heatsink and two to the side) then the card is probably soft-moddable. The moddable card looks like this:
  • edited July 2003
    the card is red and the memory is configured in an "L" shape!
    I know that i can do softmod with this card...people told me that i can. i wanted from u some updated article about radeon 9500 softmod...thanks.
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited July 2003
    AFAIK, the Hercules 3D Prophet 9500 's were moddable to the 9700 series of Radeon (at least according to data I've seen on other tech sites).

    The easiest way to perform the softmod is to download RivaTuner 2.0 and the necessary scripts to perform the mod. You can find the necessary software over @ Guru3d.com

    //Edit: I'll also refer you to this article here @ Short-Media.com, which could help you -> ATI: SoftModding Your ATI Radeon 9500
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    I don't think there are any current articles about it. The overclocking forum on www.rage3d.com has information about the BIOS update that you need: the warp11 BIOS. There's also information about a driver you can use, the Omega driver (www.omegacorner.com) which has an install option that allows the softmod.
  • MachineGunKellyMachineGunKelly The STICKS, Illinois
    edited July 2003
    Or see the thread about it right above this one....
    ATI: Soft Modding Your ATI Radeon 9500
  • edited July 2003
    i can burn the softmod into the bios of the card?
    i mean, if i will format my computer i will have to do the softmod again? or i just need to do the softmod once?
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    I dunno, SimGuy, I liked the Omega driver and stuff a LOT better than RivaTuner...

    gilad_o: If you decide to go with RivaTuner, DON'T install the Omega Driver. If you decide to go with Omega, DON'T install RivaTuner. If you do Omega, you must first uninstall the ATi control panel (Omega has one built in) and it gives you the most up-to-date Catalyst driver (3.6) as well. There's a lot of information on the rage3d forum.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    gilad_o said
    i can burn the softmod into the bios of the card?
    i mean, if i will format my computer i will have to do the softmod again? or i just need to do the softmod once?

    You burn the overclockable BIOS into the card... the softmod must be re-done every time you reformat your PC. It's purely software, and it's also un-doable if you wish.
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited July 2003
    GHoosdum said
    I dunno, SimGuy, I liked the Omega driver and stuff a LOT better than RivaTuner...

    gilad_o: If you decide to go with RivaTuner, DON'T install the Omega Driver. If you decide to go with Omega, DON'T install RivaTuner. If you do Omega, you must first uninstall the ATi control panel (Omega has one built in) and it gives you the most up-to-date Catalyst driver (3.6) as well. There's a lot of information on the rage3d forum.

    I didn't even know you could perform the soft-mod automatically with Omega's drivers.

    Wow. :):thumbsup:
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    Omega makes a sweeeeet little package! ;)
  • edited July 2003
    ok..so if i will download omega drivers bla bla...
    it will do the softmodding? 9500->9700?
  • MachineGunKellyMachineGunKelly The STICKS, Illinois
    edited July 2003
    gilad_o, like evrything else that has drivers if you re-format your os you will have to re-install the driver set and the hack because they will no longer be there........just like for a printer, scanner, sound card, videocard, etc.
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited July 2003
    gilad_o said
    ok..so if i will download omega drivers bla bla...
    it will do the softmodding? 9500->9700?

    Yep. Turns out there is a prompt during the install of the drivers that asks if you want to perform the "Soft Modification". Select yes and it will automatically perform the Soft-Mod for you, turning your 9500 into a 9700.

    If you want to, you can download a new BIOS for the card and unlock it, allowing you to overclock your 9500 to a 9500 Pro (or if you perform the softmod, allowing you to overclock your 9500 to a 9700 Pro) :)

    Enjoy!
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    gilad_o said
    ok..so if i will download omega drivers bla bla...
    it will do the softmodding? 9500->9700?

    Check out the readme file for the Omega Driver. It states:

    "The 9500->9800 and 9700->9800 hack is still avaiable as an install option. (2k/XP)"

    This only works if you have Win2K or XP, not 95,98,Me!!!!!
  • edited July 2003
    I will install the omega drivers and i will softmode my card.
    after that i will o/c the card manualy to the pro version.

    thanks u for the help! I will update u if i will have some problems.
  • TemplarTemplar You first.
    edited July 2003
    "The 9500->9800 and 9700->9800 hack is still avaiable as an install option. (2k/XP)"

    Is that Pro or Non-Pro?
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    Non-Pro. The only difference between the 9700 and the 9700 pro is the clock speed. If you softmod a 9500 to a 9700, all you have to do is overclock to get a 9700 Pro.

    The "9800" in this case is the fact that it allows some optimisations that were done for the Smartshader 2.1 for the 9800 to run on the 9500/9700 series, which only really has Smartshader 2.0...

    And you'd REALLY have to OC that bad boy a lot to get 9800 pro speeds!
  • NecropolisNecropolis Hawarden, Wales Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    gilad_o,

    Look in here, you have had the question answered. Please stop creating new threads asking the same question.
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