3.20 overclocked
Model: ASUS P4P800S
Version: Rev 1.xx
Front Side Bus Speed: 4x 220MHz (880MHz data rate)
Total Memory: 1024MB DDR-SDRAM pc3200
Memory Bus Speed: 2x 146MHz (292MHz data rate)
Adapter: MSI RADEON 9800 PRO PlusModel: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
Speed: 3.52GHz
CPU Temperature: idle 44.0°C - up to 60.0°C w/heavy load
aftermarket coolermaster Jet 4 thermal heatsink and fan/artic silver 5
Think my box is running to hot? How can I get it to 3.6 Ghz? Any input on improvement is appreciated. Thanks.
Version: Rev 1.xx
Front Side Bus Speed: 4x 220MHz (880MHz data rate)
Total Memory: 1024MB DDR-SDRAM pc3200
Memory Bus Speed: 2x 146MHz (292MHz data rate)
Adapter: MSI RADEON 9800 PRO PlusModel: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
Speed: 3.52GHz
CPU Temperature: idle 44.0°C - up to 60.0°C w/heavy load
aftermarket coolermaster Jet 4 thermal heatsink and fan/artic silver 5
Think my box is running to hot? How can I get it to 3.6 Ghz? Any input on improvement is appreciated. Thanks.
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Watercooling will give you very good temps and not be quite as noisy as a high end air cooling setup but don't get one of those cheap pre-assembled watercoolers because they honestly aren't any better than a mid-range air cooling setup, instead look into a Swiftech kit or check out www.dtekcustoms.com for the parts to build one yourself.
You may be able to reach higher overclocks by increasing vcore, but I wouldn't try that until you get some better cooling. 60*C I think is pretty normal for Presscots, but it's still pretty hot.
To OC it, I run it at upper end of its acceptable voltage range, the BIOS is set a tib high to allow for a PSU that runs about .1 Vcc LOW. I confirmed voltage several ways, pumped voltage in BIOS to get to an average of 1.40 Vcc actual. The Prescott specs are for acceptable Vcc at CPU to be in the 1.31 to 1.41 range plus normal voltage variance. To OC, I pump FSB at CPU, lock the NB BRIDGE to 200x4 (800FSB), LOCK PCI and AGP to 33 and 66 MHz, and base-float RAM with FSB (actually, CPU part of FSB, CPU:RAM ratio is 1:1). In cooler weather, it will take an FSB of 220X4, or 880 at CPU. RAM can OC, so no problems with RAM at 440 MHz. In real warm weather, a max between 210X4 and 215X4 is about all it will do, without water cooling which I have no money nor room for right now.
Unless you are in Arizona, you might try an FSB of 210, see if stable, and then see if it will take 215 FSB if so(IF you want to run at 220X4, take thermal shutdown setting precautions, PLEASE). This is not how you OC an AMD chip ideally, but for Northwood(with slight mod of RAM ratioing) and Prescotts it works. In this case, you use a BASE OC for CPU or if you have REAL good NB cooling, a complete FSB OC, and not a multiplier OC. FYI, those of you who might be wondering this is not an Asus board I use here for both boxes, it is an Abit IC7-Max3 motherboard. So, slight variances might be needed to tune to the particular chipset and BIOS on the Asus board, and adjust for RAM and video card to balance voltages tightly given the specific PSU used and power control circuitry on the motherboard.
Expect the NB to show OH flakes first(and expect to have to keep an eye on the NB fan speed and be sensitive to unusual noises from it (NB FAN, not NB itself) when you OC a Prescott and RAM, as the NB is now working overtime unless you lock the bridge if you can in BIOS on your board), not the CPU. The CPU has lots of slack in heat spec capacities, and is actually benching in COOLER (in actual use temp benches) than Intel designed for and estimated it would run (temperature wise) in actual use-- upper end with zero damage in testing was 75 C per Intel engineering, at design time, and my Prescott has been that high without shutting down, though to me 75C is where the sense of reasonableness limits, so now the box is set to do a thermal shutdown at 75C and I allow my Prescott to run at any temp under 70 C with no alarming.
Yes, Prescotts will OC some, its just that the 'how' is different than with AMD chips, where often a multiplier (or multiplier AND Base combined) OC is used, and with most BIOS's for Prescott chips you instead use a BASE OC strategy, but lock some subbusses based on heat patterns and capability of other things in box. Intel spec compliances leave the manual manipulation of the multiplier unaccessible in most BIOSs, so folks who are used to a multiplier OC strategy think the chip is purely locked-- but it is designed to be able to handle some float in BASE within limits determined by heat level patterns under load.
My 3.2E will boot and is Prime95 stable @ 3888 MHz on SLK-900U & 92mm Tornado cooling @ 1.5125V, but I've got a real good clocker of a chip, running 61*C full load temps at that speed. However, for everyday running, it's @ 3600 MHz @ 54*C full load.
Depending on your chip & your cooling, Your Mileage May Vary.
Intel says not to exceed 1.5V through a Prescott, but most O/C'ers are comfortable shoving 1.6V through on mid-range watercooling. I wouldn't recommend exceeding 1.5125V for air cooling.
Just out of curiosity FedEx, what does your Intel retail box label say (this one isn't mine, but here's my info just for kicks).
Product Code: BX80546PG3200ESL7B8
MM: 858683
FPO/Batch: 7419A940
Package Date: 08/23/2004
Package Location: Phillipines
I know you're gonna defend it and it's your baby so do what makes you happy but I had an 80mm Tornado running on my last AMD rig and it was the whole reason I went to water cooling...I kept dreaming of dentist drills and Kenny G music, it was horrible
HAHHAHAAHH!!! Kenny G & Dentist Drills!!
I'm not going to defend it. It's noisy as hell, but lets ya clock. Watercooling or phase change is a much better solution than the Tornado for both temps and noise and I'd go that route in a heartbeat if I wasn't replacing the system.
Oh, it gets worse. That's only 1 of 5 Tornado's in the case
WHAT?? Can you repeat that? I can't hear you...err... OH.
Ringing? No.
But I am no longer able to speak to anyone on the phone that's sitting next to the case, as I can't hear them on it due to background noise.
Sounds like a noisy hairdryer running all the time... not as deep as a shopvac, but just as windy.
If my system was outfited like yours I'd be sans the pads of all the fingers and thumb on one hand.
Yah it was louder then the music @ lanimaina 3