WinXP, KT600, 9700 PRO craps out during install
One of you may have come across this before but I am stymied as to what the cause is.
Gigabyte KT600 motherboard
2 x 256 Corsair XMS memory
9700 PRO video card
HDD on IDE 1
AMD 3200+
I know all the components work. I just pulled them from a working system from the last review. I have reflashed the BIOS, tried at safe default BIOS settings. Turned off LAN, 1394 and audio. Tried at optimized settings. Tried single DIMM in 1, 2 and 3. Tried two sticks in 1 and 2 and 2 and 3 and 1 and 3.
Basically what happens is WindowsXP will crap out mere minutes before the installation is complete. The most common error is that the monitor will suddenly flip over to being OUT OF SYNC and displaying 183 to 190 khz reading. (In that little message window that appears as if the monitor were unplugged) The installation process promptly stops too and rebooting will restart the installation process.
This will occur at about the 3-5 minutes to go in the installation process of WinXP. I've seen the 9700 PRO and the same memory used on another review sample over at ANAND and they had no problems.
Has anybody experienced this type of error.
Of course Gigabyte says "it should be working."
Gigabyte KT600 motherboard
2 x 256 Corsair XMS memory
9700 PRO video card
HDD on IDE 1
AMD 3200+
I know all the components work. I just pulled them from a working system from the last review. I have reflashed the BIOS, tried at safe default BIOS settings. Turned off LAN, 1394 and audio. Tried at optimized settings. Tried single DIMM in 1, 2 and 3. Tried two sticks in 1 and 2 and 2 and 3 and 1 and 3.
Basically what happens is WindowsXP will crap out mere minutes before the installation is complete. The most common error is that the monitor will suddenly flip over to being OUT OF SYNC and displaying 183 to 190 khz reading. (In that little message window that appears as if the monitor were unplugged) The installation process promptly stops too and rebooting will restart the installation process.
This will occur at about the 3-5 minutes to go in the installation process of WinXP. I've seen the 9700 PRO and the same memory used on another review sample over at ANAND and they had no problems.
Has anybody experienced this type of error.
Of course Gigabyte says "it should be working."
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Usually it´s Apic 1.4 enabled or disabled. On newer boards, it comes as enabled by default. After a million tests, i would say disabled is the safest install but enabled MAY give you benchmark improvements but that wasn´t the issue here.
Your issues here sounds like a classical Apic thing to me.
Apart from that, set agp voltage to 1 step more. 1.7 works much better on my 9700. Try also 4X agp instead of 8.
UPDATE: well PIC setting don't work worth beans. 2 minutes to go and the monitor kicks out again. Crapweasel.
UPDATE:
on both P750 and ATI 9700 PRO
PIC no work.
APIC no work.
AGP 4x no work.
bumping AGP voltage no work.
crapweasel.
Well, i have seen some 600 boards been able to run pretty well so this problem must be on Gigabyte´s side. Have you asked for another bios? Have they sent you any beta bios to test?
You should demand that IMO.
Any chance to try 2K just to see if there is any difference? Maybe even 2K3 server?
Are you able to disable APIC or ACPI completely? If not you may need to mod the bios to enable that possibility. Have had much better luck generally running one or the other but not the combined HAL that gives ya just 24 irq's with APIC. Its a weird combo that just hasnt panned out well for me. I stick to pure apic or pure acpi. So choosing your HAL manually may be required.
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I have asus, and msi servers both runing pure apic now without a burp and all my benchs test better with APIC also? Only my old kr7 showed instability with apic. It was semi stable but still barfed every couple days. Its my kids box so I gave up and went back to acpi for her sake as benchmarks just really don't crank her tractor much, but crashs while she is playing white stripe MP3's baffle her.
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No wonder why i always have problems with Apic then. I dont have anything else than Abit. That makes me wonder why they put Apic 1.4 enabled by default in the bios of the NF-7.
IF a good dual Nforce2 board is being released soon, i´m sure i will join. I am sitting next to the puter and i can´t stand the noise of a dual rig with 4X10K scsi disks. Off course i would watercool the cpu´s but those disks would get me mad. Hell, my 2 80 gig se´s are too loud. Thanks for the advice.
Sorry MM for the off topic here.
We think the board was damaged in shipping. The new beta bios they sent me did not help at all.
2 completely different systems were tried. (a totally different case, PSU, video card, ram, processor, drives etc.) No go.
Disabled APIC, turned off all settings way down to safe safe safe default. Must have tried 15 different BIOS configurations. No go.
If it gets to the point of choosing a new HAL then it's too difficult for the average PC user. Good suggestion though but these boards should mostly be "plug and play" otherwise it really isn't a good product is it.
What have you NOT replaced. Think hard. I have had installs not work when they came off a fancy brand new DVD/cd drive for example that worked fine when I switched to a plain cd drive and I was soooooooo pissed that I never suspected the damn cd installation drive and it screwed me for 15+ installs till I went bonkers and stripped the SOB down to a bare MB and pulled all new parts in ONE AT A TIME till I found it.
Its something specific to your parts somewhere. I can't believe they released a board that doesnt run XP. In fact I'm so sure I'll bet ya 100 bucks american right now I can make XP install on that MB if you get fed up.
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That would be the MPS uniprocessor and I agree its the cats meow if you don't need the acpi B.S. The acpi/apic combo one gives 24 IRQ's but they still share IRQ's at times soooooooo.
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All depends on the drives my friend. My atlas 10k III's and Hitachi scsi's are dead quiet running. same with my older IBM's although the newer 15k IBM's dick with me bad. I have a huge stack of old Microplis 10k drives and they have a high pitched whine that grates big time. Thats why they stick in a tall pile in my closet too. The newer seagate drives and Fuji drives are supposed to be even more quiet. I sit beside my case with the doors off and can't hear the drives run. You can hear a little chatter when the disk is being tested or something but no worse then my maxtor IDE's really with the sound dampening crap turned off. Sound is specific to make/model of drive is basicaly what I am saying. A buddy I build boxs for has a ordered a sh*tload of older 50gb scsi's and I would have to have those suckers in another room even though they are 7200 rpm as opposed to my 10k drives.
My huge scsi racks make more noise from their internal fans to cool the drives then from any drive noise. They were meant to be run in computer rooms though were cooling versus noise was really the concern. Drives seem to be doing fine with the cover off and the fans pulled and they run 24/7 for me. (grin)
Ask MM if his scsi's are noisy? he has a couple of the Atlas 10k III's also and I set his up in the open sitting on a cardboard box top I think it was.
My asus dualie is using some unreal 80mm temp controlled fans I got from MM and they are super super quiet and cool running on some sk7's. Much quieter even then the manualy speed controller Enermax 80mm fans on teeh MSI dualie on top of sk7's.
The asus only has 1700 XP's in it but with a scsi subsystem thats hits 200,000 on atto and has a 2ms AVG access time in sandra I have no complaints with the speed really even though teh MSI has 2100+ XP's the disk subsystem is slower and feels slower to use. You gotta experiance a 2ms avg access disk subsystem to undersatnd the feel.
It feels so much faster I keep wanting to put on goggles and tape my ears back to reduce wind resistance.. (grin)
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