My Mom has that same idea, she thinks I'm too old to watch cartoons. And as a result she won't watch cartoons.
However, my dad, 61, likes watching cartoons on the occasion.
Those cartoons from the pre 70's era is what burned adults on the idea of what a cartoon is.
My brother likes some cartoons, but dislikes anime due to what "anime" is being shown on network television. I was the same way until I watched some good Japanese Anime, now I can't get enough of it.
DragonballZ is a bad example of a good adult anime.
I've watched enought DBZ cartoons on the Cartoon Network to dislike watching DBZ.
Would you consider movies like Heavy Metal, Titan A.E., and others like those anime? I know they are animation, but I dunno for sure if you are speaking of JAPANESE Anime.
I wouldn't. They're artistic style and flavor are not the same. Although Heavy Metal and Titan A.E. are good animation, I don't think they're any closer to anime than Lilo and Stich. They've definitely been influenced by anime though.
anyone lookin for cheap anime dvds, check out www.meganimedvd.com. They have lots of the good stuff for cheap prices. USA dvd prices are so overinflated.
/Edit: How could I forget Stacy Kiebler?! Yum-Yum Yummy!!!!
GHoosdum said And those two "adults" in the group won't give anime a chance, but they watch Monday Night RAW religiously... go figure!
I watch cartoons once in a while, and some might consider it anime, but I don't (maybe my definition is too narrow). When I think anime I think Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z, Sailor Moon, and other cartoons w/ that same look/feel. I like Spiderman (the one Fox had a few years back) and I loved the old Transformers (mid 80s). Is that anime? Perhaps, I don't know, but it sure doesn't look like what I think of when I think anime. Scooby Doo is pretty kewl, Justice League rocks. Batman rules! Ahh, the more I talk about cartoons the more I long for my childhood.
danball1976 said My Mom has that same idea, she thinks I'm too old to watch cartoons. And as a result she won't watch cartoons.
However, my dad, 61, likes watching cartoons on the occasion.
Those cartoons from the pre 70's era is what burned adults on the idea of what a cartoon is.
My brother likes some cartoons, but dislikes anime due to what "anime" is being shown on network television. I was the same way until I watched some good Japanese Anime, now I can't get enough of it.
DragonballZ is a bad example of a good adult anime.
I've watched enought DBZ cartoons on the Cartoon Network to dislike watching DBZ.
I'll be honest and say that I would probably never have given anime a chance, given that I am still stuck in the late 60's Saturday morning cartoon mindset I had as a kid.
My daughter, who just graduated High School this Spring, is nuts about anime. She has shown me some stuff which has a much better developed plot, characters, storyline, etc. to change my mind.
Of course, it should come as no surprise that I still rank Rocky & Bullwinkle as the all-time best.
It looks like they are so cheap, because they only have the overseas editions. Of course, if you're a purist and only listen to the Japanese voice track with English Subtitles, then you're set.
I find the US editions to have a higher quality packaging as well as the media itself. Ebay is another option. I got Spriggan and Amon Saga for less than 10$ delivered.
/Edit: How could I forget Stacy Kiebler?! Yum-Yum Yummy!!!!
GHoosdum said And those two "adults" in the group won't give anime a chance, but they watch Monday Night RAW religiously... go figure!
I watch cartoons once in a while, and some might consider it anime, but I don't (maybe my definition is too narrow). When I think anime I think Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z, Sailor Moon, and other cartoons w/ that same look/feel. I like Spiderman (the one Fox had a few years back) and I loved the old Transformers (mid 80s). Is that anime? Perhaps, I don't know, but it sure doesn't look like what I think of when I think anime. Scooby Doo is pretty kewl, Justice League rocks. Batman rules! Ahh, the more I talk about cartoons the more I long for my childhood.
danball1976 said My Mom has that same idea, she thinks I'm too old to watch cartoons. And as a result she won't watch cartoons.
However, my dad, 61, likes watching cartoons on the occasion.
Those cartoons from the pre 70's era is what burned adults on the idea of what a cartoon is.
My brother likes some cartoons, but dislikes anime due to what "anime" is being shown on network television. I was the same way until I watched some good Japanese Anime, now I can't get enough of it.
DragonballZ is a bad example of a good adult anime.
I've watched enought DBZ cartoons on the Cartoon Network to dislike watching DBZ.
Spiderman, Justice League, and BatMan are not Anime.
I wouldn't really consider the original Transformers anime, but my brother said he heard that it was.
Defining exactly what is and is not Anime has been a challenge from the start. The word 'Anime' is english, so is the concept of Anime as a genre. (the Japanese certainly do not group EVERY animated feature that is produced there into one genre) The word has been around since the eighties, but it did not gain popular usage until the mid-nineties when the term 'Japanimation' was removed from the lexicon after being declared offencive by the creators and fans of Japanese produced animation.
'Anime' is just short for 'Animation'
The biggest problem is that everyone has a different concept of just what Anime is.
A lot of hard-core fans beleive that it cannot be called Anime unless it is actually from Japan.
Some older fans agree, but add that it also has to fit a certain stylistic format. This particular style was developed in the late seventies and early eighties. The first film in this style to reach America as a dubbed feature was 'Akira', and untill the mid-nineties it was imposible to find Japanese animation dubbed into english unless it was in that same style, thus establishing the stereo-typical 'look' of anime. There were alot of (about 40) subtitled 'giant robot' seires released in America earlier, but these were not taken seriously by most fans of the art (although the American "Transformers" was heavily based on these).
In the early The popularity of a silly show called "Dragonball" (published here by FunImation studios) among children in the US prompted the dubbing of its sequel series "DragonballZ" by a little Huston studio called Pioneer (this is the same studio that dubbed Akira). This seires, while alreaty old hat in Japan, was like a miniature revolution of animation in the english and spanish speaking world. It was the first time that we got a some more mature animation from Japan that was in seires form so that it could be shown on television instead of just being sold on VHS. They dubbed the first season as an experiment. The series was picked up by Cartoon Network on the condition that the execive blood be recolored as sweat and soot. Cartoon Network showed the series late at night, and it was moderatly succesful. They showed the same season over again about five times while the show picked up more veiwers. Soon, Pioneer embarked on the lofty mission of dubbing the rest of the series, to the imence delight of the fans. Cartoon Network became instrumental in the popularising of anime when they established Toonami, a several hour program of anime in the afternoon. They started buying up almost every anime series that someone was willing to dubb, and that was relatively clean. Most of it came from Pioneer, FunImation, and Sunshine Studios.
The confusion started when American studios started to make their own more mature animation, and the styles comming out of Japan started to look very similar. It wasen't that one was definetly copying the other, it was that both began moving toward the same final destination. Even thematicaly the styles started to become more similar (although neither the hardcore pornography anime, nor the hardcore violent anime ever caught on with american studios).
I'm not sure where I was going with that anymore...
Anyway, here's the thing: Webster tells us that an anime is "a style of animation originating in Japan that is characterized by stark colorful graphics depicting vibrant characters in action-filled plots often with fantastic or futuristic themes."
If we use that definition, then such stark colorful fantastic stories, like our American comic-book style stuff is anime. But then again, some dark Japanese stuff, like Boogiepop would not be anime.
Any anime I watch has to be in Japanese and subtitled in English. Sometimes the dubbing ruins the quality of the animation and what they are actually saying. Although, subtitles aren't a totally accurate translation, its still just as easy to understand.
Such as in Ranma, when saying something like o-nee-chan, which is sister in english, they will instead show that person's name (like Kasumi's name)
I believe the two best Anime series that I have watched so far are:
Please Teacher (Onegai Teacher - 12 episodes + 1 OVA)
Please Twins (Onegai Twins - up to Episode 7, more episodes to come - still either being subbed by fan subs websites like Anime-Empire or Aniverse or not released yet)
Onegai Twins is a spin off/sequal to Onegai Teacher. The Teacher (Mizuho) appears quite often in Twins, her husband (Kei) appears only 4 times so far, with no lines. Ichigo also appears often and is the school president.
Please don't pay attention to the trailer on the website or on Bandai Visual's Website (the same one that made Cowboy Bebop). It does not do the series justice. It makes the series appear as something its not. I would suggest downloading or buying (watch it in japanese with english subs if you buy it)
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However, my dad, 61, likes watching cartoons on the occasion.
Those cartoons from the pre 70's era is what burned adults on the idea of what a cartoon is.
My brother likes some cartoons, but dislikes anime due to what "anime" is being shown on network television. I was the same way until I watched some good Japanese Anime, now I can't get enough of it.
DragonballZ is a bad example of a good adult anime.
I've watched enought DBZ cartoons on the Cartoon Network to dislike watching DBZ.
BTW, Cartoon Networks Adult Swim shows some great anime. You really cannot say all anime on network television is bad.
They have the 'Gundam Wing' Boxset for only $63, that's less that half Best Buy's price!
Thanks, Buddy!
/Edit: How could I forget Stacy Kiebler?! Yum-Yum Yummy!!!!
I watch cartoons once in a while, and some might consider it anime, but I don't (maybe my definition is too narrow). When I think anime I think Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z, Sailor Moon, and other cartoons w/ that same look/feel. I like Spiderman (the one Fox had a few years back) and I loved the old Transformers (mid 80s). Is that anime? Perhaps, I don't know, but it sure doesn't look like what I think of when I think anime. Scooby Doo is pretty kewl, Justice League rocks. Batman rules! Ahh, the more I talk about cartoons the more I long for my childhood.
No prob bro.. They have all of FLCL for $10.50 or some ungodly cheap price. Cowboy Bebop for $35. I know where I'm spending my paychecks.
My daughter, who just graduated High School this Spring, is nuts about anime. She has shown me some stuff which has a much better developed plot, characters, storyline, etc. to change my mind.
Of course, it should come as no surprise that I still rank Rocky & Bullwinkle as the all-time best.
I find the US editions to have a higher quality packaging as well as the media itself. Ebay is another option. I got Spriggan and Amon Saga for less than 10$ delivered.
Spiderman, Justice League, and BatMan are not Anime.
I wouldn't really consider the original Transformers anime, but my brother said he heard that it was.
'Anime' is just short for 'Animation'
The biggest problem is that everyone has a different concept of just what Anime is.
A lot of hard-core fans beleive that it cannot be called Anime unless it is actually from Japan.
Some older fans agree, but add that it also has to fit a certain stylistic format. This particular style was developed in the late seventies and early eighties. The first film in this style to reach America as a dubbed feature was 'Akira', and untill the mid-nineties it was imposible to find Japanese animation dubbed into english unless it was in that same style, thus establishing the stereo-typical 'look' of anime. There were alot of (about 40) subtitled 'giant robot' seires released in America earlier, but these were not taken seriously by most fans of the art (although the American "Transformers" was heavily based on these).
In the early The popularity of a silly show called "Dragonball" (published here by FunImation studios) among children in the US prompted the dubbing of its sequel series "DragonballZ" by a little Huston studio called Pioneer (this is the same studio that dubbed Akira). This seires, while alreaty old hat in Japan, was like a miniature revolution of animation in the english and spanish speaking world. It was the first time that we got a some more mature animation from Japan that was in seires form so that it could be shown on television instead of just being sold on VHS. They dubbed the first season as an experiment. The series was picked up by Cartoon Network on the condition that the execive blood be recolored as sweat and soot. Cartoon Network showed the series late at night, and it was moderatly succesful. They showed the same season over again about five times while the show picked up more veiwers. Soon, Pioneer embarked on the lofty mission of dubbing the rest of the series, to the imence delight of the fans. Cartoon Network became instrumental in the popularising of anime when they established Toonami, a several hour program of anime in the afternoon. They started buying up almost every anime series that someone was willing to dubb, and that was relatively clean. Most of it came from Pioneer, FunImation, and Sunshine Studios.
The confusion started when American studios started to make their own more mature animation, and the styles comming out of Japan started to look very similar. It wasen't that one was definetly copying the other, it was that both began moving toward the same final destination. Even thematicaly the styles started to become more similar (although neither the hardcore pornography anime, nor the hardcore violent anime ever caught on with american studios).
I'm not sure where I was going with that anymore...
Anyway, here's the thing: Webster tells us that an anime is "a style of animation originating in Japan that is characterized by stark colorful graphics depicting vibrant characters in action-filled plots often with fantastic or futuristic themes."
If we use that definition, then such stark colorful fantastic stories, like our American comic-book style stuff is anime. But then again, some dark Japanese stuff, like Boogiepop would not be anime.
So, hopefully you see the difficulty here...
Such as in Ranma, when saying something like o-nee-chan, which is sister in english, they will instead show that person's name (like Kasumi's name)
Please Teacher (Onegai Teacher - 12 episodes + 1 OVA)
Please Twins (Onegai Twins - up to Episode 7, more episodes to come - still either being subbed by fan subs websites like Anime-Empire or Aniverse or not released yet)
Onegai Twins is a spin off/sequal to Onegai Teacher. The Teacher (Mizuho) appears quite often in Twins, her husband (Kei) appears only 4 times so far, with no lines. Ichigo also appears often and is the school president.
<a href="http://www.pleaseteacher.net" target="_blank">Onegai Teacher</a>
<a href="http://www.bandai-ent.com" target="_blank">Bandai Entertainment</a>
Please don't pay attention to the trailer on the website or on Bandai Visual's Website (the same one that made Cowboy Bebop). It does not do the series justice. It makes the series appear as something its not. I would suggest downloading or buying (watch it in japanese with english subs if you buy it)