TCCD Memory Modules discontinued

lemonlimelemonlime Canada Member
edited March 2005 in Hardware
Looks like another Winbond style tragedy. I don't know how accurate this is, but here is the story regardless..

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21168

Good thing I bought my rev.2 already :mullet:
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  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    Let see here.... I heard that soon DDR memory will cost the consumer less than what it does for the manufacturers to make them, but DDR2 memory will still make a profit. I guess this is why they decided to make this move, to push the development of DDR2 memory so that these guys can make some money?
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited February 2005
    I've not kept up with the latest in memory for quite a while, but if The Inq is correct about Samsung doing this to promote DDR2 then wouldn't Samsung have TCCD (or something similar) ready for DDR2. (Or is TCCD or something similar already on DDR2?).
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    It's true i'm afraid. One of the best memory chips ever built is EOL :(
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I hate you, Samsung.
  • madmatmadmat
    edited February 2005
    WTF, they just came out with these chips a few months ago...why kill them off so damned soon? They afraid that killer chips like these will prevent/delay the forced migration over to DDR2?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    Yes, that's exactly why Samsung is killing them off.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    I'm so happy I already got my new memory and CPU! :thumbsup:

    But I am still perplexed as to why this keeps happening with the good memory modules???? :scratch:

    Must resist DDR2 transition. Must resist! Resistance is not futile. :shakehead
  • leishi85leishi85 Grand Rapids, MI Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    WTF am i going to do for my next COMPLETE upgrade.
  • croc_croc_ New
    edited February 2005
    Good thing I just bought mine. :X
  • RWBRWB Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    What's wrong with DDR2?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    DDR-II 667 is slower than DDR500.

    A few manufacturers like OCZ have stepped up to the plate and started offering lower-latency modules that finally put the performance where it should be, but JEDEC only ratified craptasmic 4/4/4 timings which is pure ****.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited February 2005
    Damn I was hoping to upgrade to some of this stuff in the summer sometime. I may have to get me some of this now before the prices go sky high from the lack of sticks.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    mmonnin wrote:
    Damn I was hoping to upgrade to some of this stuff in the summer sometime. I may have to get me some of this now before the prices go sky high from the lack of sticks.
    You may want to get some right away due to a coming lack of sticks, period! With all the folks jumping on the high speed bandwagon these days the TCCD sticks are going fast without any help from frenzy buying that they are now discontinued. Anyone remotely considering these should seriously consider buying right now as they won't last till the end of the month by my guess. :bawling:
  • ArmoArmo Mr. Nice Guy Is Dead,Only Aqua Remains Member
    edited February 2005
    does this maily effect OCers or all DDR people
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    OCers.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    Armo wrote:
    does this maily effect OCers or all DDR people
    Thrax is 100% correct.
    Thrax wrote:
    OCers.
    The average user would be doing great to just get some Corsair "Valueram", which I am a big beleiver in as long as I'm not OC'ing.
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited February 2005
    Once the TCCD supply dries up, it's not going to be the end of the world though. Crucial is still making their Ballistix line, which overclock pretty well with tight timings and also it looks like OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Gold VX is also a good choice for overclockers who aren't afraid to do volt mods or can run a DDR booster.
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited February 2005
    What's a "DDR booster?"
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    The real catch with DDR2 is the mobos. Anand tested 8 brands of DDR2 and all went 686 (258 fsb) at 4-4-4. Presently there isn't a mobo that will let you push them any higher.

    This is a case of product life cycle.
    It looks like what it means to me is that I won't be going to A64 until I can get DDR2 also.
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited February 2005
    edcentric wrote:
    The real catch with DDR2 is the mobos. Anand tested 8 brands of DDR2 and all went 686 (258 fsb) at 4-4-4. Presently there isn't a mobo that will let you push them any higher.

    This is a case of product life cycle.
    It looks like what it means to me is that I won't be going to A64 until I can get DDR2 also.

    I guess you'll be waiting at least another year then unless you go with a Presshot, Ed. A64 isn't going DDR2 for at least that long.
    a2jfreak wrote:
    What's a "DDR booster?"

    This is a DDR booster that OCZ makes. You need to check out their compatability info though to make sure you have no issues running it on your board.
  • dragonV8dragonV8 not here much New
    edited February 2005
    a2jfreak wrote:
    What's a "DDR booster?"

    http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/power_management/ocz_ddr_booster_diagnostic_device
  • rykoryko new york
    edited February 2005
    Thrax wrote:
    DDR-II 667 is slower than DDR500.

    A few manufacturers like OCZ have stepped up to the plate and started offering lower-latency modules that finally put the performance where it should be, but JEDEC only ratified craptasmic 4/4/4 timings which is pure ****.


    This looks like very good ddr2 with lower latencies.....maybe we will see an influx of this kind of stuff next....

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-039&depa=1
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    That's definitely the sort of stuff I'm talking about. JEDEC should've ratified timings like that, instead they pussied out (As they always do) and ratified pathetic timings that make producers look like fools.
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited February 2005
    mudd, No, I will not turn to the intel side.

    I have three options.
    1. run A64 with non-TCCD memory, no memory OC
    2. pray that I can buy someones used TCCD memory
    3. wait for DDR2 and A64

    Hey, I have two NF7s running now, I can wait.
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited February 2005
    Ed, you should be able to overclock pretty well with decent timings with the Crucial Ballistix ddr. It won't run the extreme fsb speeds of the TCCD but it does pretty darn well. Read that last ram shootout that Anandtech did; the Crucial looked pretty impressive for non-TCCD ram. So you still have a decent upgrade path for ddr in the future; just not quite as good as with TCCD being manufactured.
  • MedlockMedlock Miramar, Florida Member
    edited February 2005
    edcentric wrote:
    The real catch with DDR2 is the mobos. Anand tested 8 brands of DDR2 and all went 686 (258 fsb) at 4-4-4. Presently there isn't a mobo that will let you push them any higher.

    This is a case of product life cycle.
    It looks like what it means to me is that I won't be going to A64 until I can get DDR2 also.
    I recently saw a review of an ASUS board with more goodies than I could possibly believe, and easily ran 300+ fsb. Cost ~$500 though. Unless you wanted the Deluxe version. Then you'd easily spend over 500.

    I don't know now if for my next build I want to go with Intel, or wait even longer for for AMD to go with DDR2. The lower latency DDR2 was always pretty attractive to me, but I would definitely have picked AMD if I could get my hands on some good memory. :confused:
  • KingFishKingFish
    edited February 2005
    I'll echo what mudd said. Crucial was looking damn good. They almost came within a whisper of giving them the nod it appeared.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited February 2005
    They dont even have the OCZ Plat. Rev. 2 Listed at newegg. Good thing I got mine ordered yesterday.
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited February 2005
    Grabbed some GSkill PC4400 1GBLE (512MBx2). These TCCD modules can reportedLy do >300mhz 1T 3-4-4-8

    Also The INQ says "F" the official statements the same companies are saying off the record that TCCD is basically over due to production constraints. I'd say grab what you can now before the price shoots up.

    BTW supposedly the "E" series Opteron/Athlon 64 start appearing Next week Overclockers.com 90nm, SSE3 (& Strained Silicon??) as high as 2.8ghz (FX-57)
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited February 2005
    Yes strained silicon (supposed to help with current leakage) with SOI and SSE3 should come with the next version of the Opteron/A64.
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