Please help with ASUS K8N-E Deluxe :(

splintaxsplintax
edited June 2005 in Science & Tech
I really hate to bug you guys but I've been trying to fix this problem for like six hours now.

I have a new computer that I built with a friend and we are setting it up as a server. We want to run Win64 on it (no, stability is not an issue, it's a file-server for LANs - we have 1TB worth of SATA HDDs).

It runs on the K8N-E Deluxe and I have been trying for AGES to get the frickin' drivers on a floppy so that we can install on one of our SATA 200GB HDDs. However, NO MATTER WHAT WE GET THE INSTALL NEVER WORKS! Win64 installation always reports that no hard disks were found, but the hard disk is identified in the BIOS.

Has anyone here had any experience with this motherboard? (Incidentally, we are using WD SATA hard disks, but I don't think it matters..) It's driving us insane, we're probably just going to install on an IDE and mirror it over to a SATA, but this is an extreme pain in the ass.

Any help is much appreciated.

splintax

Comments

  • Augie64Augie64
    edited February 2005
    during the install at the beginning are you hitting f6?

    If you are doing this are your drivers properly decorated with the .ntAMD64 parts?
  • splintaxsplintax
    edited February 2005
    Augie64 wrote:
    during the install at the beginning are you hitting f6?
    Err, yes, of course :) I thought my original message made this kinda obvious.. The problem is that I don't know which drivers to load onto the floppy disk so that we can install x64 on the SATA.
    Augie64 wrote:
    If you are doing this are your drivers properly decorated with the .ntAMD64 parts?
    Hmm, I read something about this a few days ago.. not too sure what it means and how I can decorate the drivers myself?

    Thanks for any help..

    scott
  • Augie64Augie64
    edited February 2005
    I have a guide on my site. www.64bitstuff.com

    It was a post from a MSFT person on the beta newsgroup. They changed some very small parts that make XP64 only read 64 bit drivers preventig 32 bit drivers from accidently being installed.

    I might have files already decorated, Ive been editing them as I find prople having trouble with them.
  • mikimotomikimoto
    edited March 2005
    i am having the exact problem but with the a8v-e deluxe motherboard. if you find a solution i would love to know. :)
  • mellowyellowmellowyellow
    edited March 2005
    Though I used the NVIDIA SATA controller to set up a mirrored boot array, I used the SI3114 to set up a RAID 5 Array. I haven't tried XP64. I'm using W2K Server for this system. Even so, I hope my experience will be of some use to you:

    1. In BIOS set SI to RAID.
    2. Do not use the F4 option to try to set up RAID 5. Won't work.
    3. I did NOT use the old F6 option when installing my OS. I set up RAID 5 on this controller using the SI RAID 5 driver AFTER installing the OS.
    4. When you install the SI RAID 5 driver, you will also be installing the JAVA runtime, which the SI3114 requires to run RAID 5.
    5. The SI RAID driver installs SAM, the GUI you will use to create your array.
    6. Create the array inside SAM.
    7. Use the Windows Disk Management tools to partition and format the array.

    At one point I had to uninstall SAM, uninstall the JAVA runtime, delete the SI3114 controller, clean references to it from the Registry, shut down, unplug the SATA drives, boot, disable the SI RAID in BIOS, log in to Windows, shut down, plug the drives back in, boot and enable SI RAID in BIOS before I was able to get my earlier, failed efforts cleaned out.

    Good luck.
  • copseycopsey
    edited April 2005
    I have been trying (for some time) to get a raid 5 array set up on a Si3114 chip on a AOpen n250a-fr mb. I cannot get the drivers (1.1.0.0 or 1.2.0.0, required for raid 5) to run (code 10 - the device cannot start) no matter what I do - including reformatting the system disk and installing windows from scratch. Any ideas?

    thanks
    mellowyellow wrote:
    Though I used the NVIDIA SATA controller to set up a mirrored boot array, I used the SI3114 to set up a RAID 5 Array. I haven't tried XP64. I'm using W2K Server for this system. Even so, I hope my experience will be of some use to you:

    1. In BIOS set SI to RAID.
    2. Do not use the F4 option to try to set up RAID 5. Won't work.
    3. I did NOT use the old F6 option when installing my OS. I set up RAID 5 on this controller using the SI RAID 5 driver AFTER installing the OS.
    4. When you install the SI RAID 5 driver, you will also be installing the JAVA runtime, which the SI3114 requires to run RAID 5.
    5. The SI RAID driver installs SAM, the GUI you will use to create your array.
    6. Create the array inside SAM.
    7. Use the Windows Disk Management tools to partition and format the array.

    At one point I had to uninstall SAM, uninstall the JAVA runtime, delete the SI3114 controller, clean references to it from the Registry, shut down, unplug the SATA drives, boot, disable the SI RAID in BIOS, log in to Windows, shut down, plug the drives back in, boot and enable SI RAID in BIOS before I was able to get my earlier, failed efforts cleaned out.

    Good luck.
  • mellowyellowmellowyellow
    edited April 2005
    Sorry for being slow in reply and hope you have fixed this by now.

    One problem I encountered was trashing a successful setup by letting Java download an update to the one installed with the RAID 5 files from SI.

    Are you trying to use the RAID 5 array to boot the system? If not, once booted what do you see in Disk Management (I'm assuming you're using a Windows OS that has Disk Management)?

    I'll be better about replying this time if you still need assistance (though my help may be lame).
  • copseycopsey
    edited April 2005
    Hey - thanks for replying.
    I haven't got this running yet. AOpen tech support, although polite, are being kind of slow.
    I'm not booting from the raid5 array - well I can't because I can't get it to run. In disk management I don't see any of the disks involved in the array (only the system disk - this is just IDE) when using the 1.1.0.0 or 1.2.0.0 drivers (because they don't run and so the disks aren't even in device manager). When I load the 1.0.0.7 or 1.0.0.1 drivers (which do run, but don't support raid 5) I see 3 out of 4 drives in device manager (and disk management - its winxp pro). I've done all sorts of swapping of cables and disks and its always the drive connected to the 4th port that doesn't show up. Plus the raid bios can see and low-level-format all 4 disks, so I don't think its cables/something physical like that.
    :wtf:
  • mellowyellowmellowyellow
    edited April 2005
    Unfortunately I'm away from my shop just now. But, does your BIOS have an option for making all four drives RAID aware?

    I'll be back in the shop tomorrow and will take a closer look at mine. If it's any reassurance, setting my RAID 5 was a total pain in the butt too. Worth it, but WAY too much work. SI needs to make this tool more user friendly, I think.
  • copseycopsey
    edited April 2005
    Yeah I set the drives to be raid 5 in the bios. There's not much else to do in the bios to be honest.

    Have you tried whipping out a drive and seeing if it can handle it? I'm starting to worry if its all worth it...
  • copseycopsey
    edited April 2005
    I wonder if its the fact i'm on xp rather than win2k?
  • amlucentamlucent
    edited June 2005
    This driver located here: http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?download=34 gives off wierd error and its not at the end of installation and the driver has been decorated!... The ERROR READS " file \amd64\si3114r.sys caused an unsuspected error (18) at line 2335 in d:\srvrtm\base\boot\setup\oemdisk.c. Press any key to continue.".... anybody know if there is a better driver out there? My Drives are striped if it helps.


    AMD Athlon 64 2800
    Asus K8N-E Deluxe
    2-512 MB PC4000 Kingston Hyper-x
    Nvidia GFORCE TI4600 (hey its a work in progress)
    2-WD 80 GB 8mb 7200 RPM IDE
    2-WD 80 GB 8mb 7200 RPM SATA
    Aspire X Navigator Case
    450 watt Cooler Master psu
    SUSE Linux 9.2 Pro (64 Bit)
  • nutternutter
    edited June 2005
    try here for a modified driver for the asus board www.ox64.co.uk and in the downloads section you will find the file. Hope it works. If you still get buggy messages try flashing your bios to the latest stable version. you can use asus update or download the flash util and bios onto a bootable floppy. Make sure the boot floppy is basic, no himem or anything like that.

    Nutter
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