Another XP System Failure

hyde678hyde678 Canada!
edited February 2006 in Science & Tech
Hi there, I'm new to this forum and thought maybe you people might be able to help me solve an issue..

Here's what I'm running:

3 Western Digital SATA HDD (2x250gb 1x120gb)
MSI K7N2 Delta Motherboard
Athlon XP 2600+, 2.13gHz
FSP 530w Power Supply
2 x 512mb DDR400 Ram
nVIDIA nFORCE MCP2
Radeon 9200 128mb
HP DVD-RW 530r

WinXP pro SP2 is my OS but this issue also occured with XP home edition SP2

Here's my problem:

It crashes out of nowhere. And as Xp was configured to reboot on system failure, and wasnt logging anything in the system logs, I disabled that configuration so that I could finally get that ugly blue screen so that I could at least know what was happening.. and here's what it told me..

***STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC000001D, 0xBAE4C7E5, 0xBA6C5A28, 0x00000000)

*** afd.sys - Address BAE4C7E5 base at BAE3E000, DateStamp 41107eb5

I've been looking all over the place but my best bet I believe would be here.

I truly appreciate the work you guys do and offer, and really look forward to receiving any information possible that may lead to finding the cause for this system failure. If you need any further info on my system, do let me know. I simply posted the basics here.

THANKS A LOT! :)

Comments

  • hyde678hyde678 Canada!
    edited March 2005
    also.. before i get the suggestion.. what is memtest x86? and how do i run it? i tried using the run command and it didnt work.. i know i could probably search some more to figure it out but it's exhausting y'know? :P

    Thanks again.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited March 2005
    hyde678 wrote:
    also.. before i get the suggestion.. what is memtest x86? and how do i run it? i tried using the run command and it didnt work.. i know i could probably search some more to figure it out but it's exhausting y'know? :P

    Thanks again.
    Memtest is a dos based memory test that checks your ram outside of an operating system environment. You need to extract it to a bootable floppy then boot from the floppy. With what you have it should take about 14 minutes to complete 1 run. You should not have any errors! If it either doesn't pass the first time or does pass, you might try relaxing your memory timings in the bios.
  • DexterDexter Vancouver, BC Canada
    edited March 2005
    We have a very good article here on the site on how to use Memtest:

    http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=276

    There are 2 versions you can download, a bootable floppy version and a bootable CD image version.

    However, I don't think that is where your problem is. The error message you get indicates the problem occurs in this file:

    afd.sys

    That is Ancillary Function Driver for WinSock. Afd.sys is the device driver responsible for managing Microsoft's Winsock TCP/IP communications protocol. So the problem appears to lay somewher in yoru networking.

    Does the problem only happen when you are connected to the internet? Or does it occur when you are not connected as well?

    You may want to re-install your ethernet card drivers, and then re-install XP SP2, and see if it clears up the problem. Also make sure to run thorough virus and spyware scans to make sure some malicious program is not borking your net protocols as well. If you need help with that, visit our Spyware / Virus / Trojan Forum:

    http://www.short-media.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=57

    Dexter...
  • hyde678hyde678 Canada!
    edited March 2005
    Dexter wrote:
    Does the problem only happen when you are connected to the internet? Or does it occur when you are not connected as well?

    You may want to re-install your ethernet card drivers, and then re-install XP SP2, and see if it clears up the problem. Also make sure to run thorough virus and spyware scans to make sure some malicious program is not borking your net protocols as well. If you need help with that, visit our Spyware / Virus / Trojan Forum:

    http://www.short-media.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=57

    Dexter...

    I am constantly connected to the internet and generally use full speed, my line is a 2.5mbs download and a 1mbs upload.

    As for security, I use the following:

    Norton Internet Security 2005
    Ad-Aware Pro SE with Ad-Watch enabled
    Spybot Search and Destroy 1.3 Final with Resident enabled
    Microsoft Antispyware Beta (also in real time protection)

    I scan regularly and it is very rare that anything gets through.

    My drivers are NForce drivers. SO you're saying to reinstall the ethernet drivers, wait to see if that clears up, and if not, reinstall the OS?

    Thanks guys, you're pretty quick on helping people out
    :thumbsup:
  • hyde678hyde678 Canada!
    edited March 2005
    ..I reinstalled the Ethernet driver, which is indeed a nVidia nForce driver. We'll see what happens from there..

    I must mention, this problem has occurred repeatedly since the original XP throughout the many reformats and reinstallations. I have tried various XP platforms and this seems to always be a problem, could there be a failure in the driver itself? My platform being an nVidia nForce 2 Ultra 400, can I install different Ethernet drivers?

    Once again, thank you very much for your help, it is much appreciated.
  • hyde678hyde678 Canada!
    edited March 2005
    nooooooooo! :bawling:

    its still crashing but now it says nothing bout the afd.sys

    all it says is

    ***STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC000005, 0x000006E4, 0xBA9DF698, 0x00000000)

    :shakehead

    any information on what this code means or where to find info on these codes would be greatly appreciated!! thanks again.
  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited March 2005
    When you say differant drivers? You need to run the latest drivers available. Not the ones on the cd from the MB.

    If you know its the ethernet you could alwasy go and buy a NIC thats seperate if your sure thats the problem.

    Tiy can get one at Walmart for 14 bucks.

    You might boot into the bios and sit and watch your temps for a while also.

    Tex
  • hyde678hyde678 Canada!
    edited March 2005
    ..if by temps you mean temperatures, i do have hard drive temperature monitoring and i'm at a steady 34 or so at all times, unless you meant it monitors your mb temp and what not else, but thanks Tex. I will definitely look into the latest drivers.
  • hyde678hyde678 Canada!
    edited March 2005
    wtf does this mean!?:

    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

    thats what it said at the top of the error screen last time the system failed.
  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited March 2005
    Can be drivers but 80 percent of the time its bad memory.

    Yes when I said temps I meant the cpu temps. Not HD temps. Worry more about monitoring teh cpu temps and not the HD temps as they are rarely a problem.

    Tex
  • hyde678hyde678 Canada!
    edited March 2005
    ok.. thanks.. now what can i do about the bad memory??
  • TexTex Dallas/Ft. Worth
    edited March 2005
    test it with docmemory or memtest to see if its bad. Both free downloads. Google for them. Again it can be drivers or a bad XP install. Make sure all the drivers are also up to date.

    Tex
  • SpeechManSpeechMan
    edited February 2006
    Thisa is exactly the same problem that i have.
    I also have nforce based motherboard, sata HD and 400 DDR RAM.

    I get fou types of bluescreens

    1. Error with afd.sys
    2. DRIVER_IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    3. Error with nv4_disp.dll
    4. No info of the problem, just the bluescreen

    My complete specs are

    Maxtor Diamondmax10 200GB SATA150 7200rpm
    EPoX 8RDA3+ Pro nforce 2 motherboard
    Athlon XP 3000+
    1 x kingston 512mb DDR400 Ram
    1 x kingston 1024mb DDR400 Ram
    MSI Geforce 6600 GT

    When comparing our equipment I've come to conclusion to NEVER again buy any NVidia hardware.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited February 2006
    SpeechMan wrote:
    ...When comparing our equipment I've come to conclusion to NEVER again buy any NVidia hardware.
    The millions of people who are happy with their nVidia equipment would disagree. Why not blame Maxtor, Kingston, Epox, MSI and AMD, too?

    Have you tried any of the suggestions in this thread, such as testing your RAM and updating your drivers? I'd recommend a couple passes of Memtest-86 as a start. :wave:
  • reelbigfishreelbigfish Boston, MA Member
    edited February 2006
    First, both of you guys should run memtest 86. Also, it isn't advised to run two sticks of different sizes and timings. Try just the one stick if 1GB at first to see if that helps. If the memory comes up ok, remove the old drivers from nvidia for chipset and video card through add/remove programs. Then google for nvcleaner which should take care of any remaining stuff. Then try installing the newest drivers from nvidias site after. I wouldn't avoid nvidia just for this. They make some pretty good stuff.
  • SpeechManSpeechMan
    edited February 2006
    I have run memtest 86 and had couple of passes, I'm gonna leave it running for through night after this.

    These problems I have have occured for some time now, adding/removing memory sticks or hard drives have not affected it in any way. Also I've tried several different drver combinations and re-installed everything after completely formatting my hard drives several times.

    I'm also gonna try that nvcleaner and re-installation of all my nvidia drivers.

    Ps. It was not my intention to provoke any action against NVidia, it's just that these kind of problems make you feel kinda angry towards their source, which in this case seems to be NVidia chipset based motherboard. I've also have had problems with my 6600GT, but my previous card, the 4200Ti was absolutely great.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited February 2006
    Looking at the four errors you get, I'd bet it's not the chipset - it's the Video Card.

    I was browsing around and found this possible solution at the nVidia Forums. With the troubles you're having it may be worth a shot. :)
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