What the F... erm ... Hecks Going on?!

MancunianMancunian Manchester, UK
edited April 2005 in Folding@Home
It's just 4.20am and yes I know it's early so I was just about to go to bed and get some shut eye when I thought about 5 mins or so ago I'd just check my folding client and see how things stood as I knew it was due to complete the 600 point Gromack around 3 or 4am and imagine my SURPRISE when yes it had finished (as only JUST finished it's not showing up on the stats yet but that's to be expected of course) and has started working on the new WU ...

p1323_1fnt etc etc. First of all if you look here, which is where I usually check the point value for each WU ... http://vspx27.stanford.edu/psummary.html you will see that p1323 should be 100 frames worth 308 points.

Now I know this will probably settle down a bit once it gets going but at the moment it's showing 2000 frames! 1543 mins per frame with the WU due to end in ... WAIT FOR IT ... 2,144 days, 9 hours, 59 mins and 7 secs!! :eek::scratch:

That seems an AWFULLY long time to process a 308 pointer, wouldn't you say? Wonder what it will be in a few hours when I get up? Oh well going to bed to dream HAPPY thoughts rather than think I'm gonna be drawing me pension by the time this WU finally ends!! ;D

It's ok, I'm being slightly facetious (only one of two words with all the vowels in their correct order by the way, just to be clever - does anyone know the second one? :)) so I'll be back later with an update. I don't REALLY believe it's going to take THAT long but it does show the number of frames not tallying again. Oh well never mind. :)

Comments

  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited April 2005
    Mancunian wrote:
    ...I'm being slightly facetious (only one of two words with all the vowels in their correct order by the way, just to be clever - does anyone know the second one?...
    Abstemious. :mullet:

    Give it a while. The calculations can be skewed by the time frame involved when you look at the WU. If it still looks goofy after 12-24 hours there are things you can try which won't mean starting over with a new WU, but may jump-start the process.
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited April 2005
    basically it looks to me like EM3 is calculating the points incorrectly. these 2000 frame units dont update the log every frame, but rather every 20 or so frames, and EM just reads the times straight. it sees xxxx30-xxxx10 = 20, so it says 20 mins per frame. make sense?
  • lemonlimelemonlime Canada Member
    edited April 2005
    Im getting similar strange completion estimates in EMIII with the QMD core WU's.. 2000 frames, estimates over 1200+hours to complete :eek: .. not accurate :D
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited April 2005
    Have you guys updated EMIII lately? Just a guess, but maybe an older version does not identify these WU's accurately. The current version is 3.1.3

    Update here (if applicable).

    You might look for the Latest EM Protein Data file while you're at it. :)
  • MancunianMancunian Manchester, UK
    edited April 2005
    Hi guys. Thanks for your input. First need to say I don't run EM3 as I'm using the GUI version to fold.

    As far as the frame reports go, I wrote in another message somewhere about a 250 one which was showing on the point value page I listed in my original message above as 100 but thought no more about it until this morning.

    Before I hit the sack I checked again and it was still showing the same data so I checked the log file and saw it was still showing zero despite the pie at the bottom seemingly moving, albeit very slowly. I therefore shut down my client and restarted it and after a few minutes it then showed a completion time of around 41 days. Still high but I was still expecting it to take time to show a more realistic frame and completion rate, as you said, Prof. Just checked (3pm Tues) and it's fine now I'm pleased to say. Still got 2000 frames rather than the 100 quoted on the other page but a frame completion rate now of 1m 20s and due to end the WU at 00:45 on Thursday 21/4 - 1 day, 10 hours, 5 mins and 26 seconds. A lot better I'm sure you'll agree. :D

    And Prof, I'm impressed my dear Sir. Very good indeed and quite correct. :thumbsup:

    Did you know there's one word in the English language which uses a pair of double letters 3 times consecutively? (Different pairs of letters of course). For example the word "look" uses the letter "o" twice. So the word I have in mind is xxxAABBCCxxx but the Xs don't necessarily show the correct number of letters before or after, and those are different of course. So, what do you think? .. And that example above is quite a good clue actually in a round about way. ;D
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited April 2005
    You lose work when you restart the client. It is now going to take you longer to the same amount of work.
  • MancunianMancunian Manchester, UK
    edited April 2005
    Is it? Oh I didn't realise that - even if the WU hasn't even started being processed? I thought it was designed to restart from where it left off? :scratch::confused:
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited April 2005
    How much you lose depends on what your checkpoint setting is. The default from Stanford is fifteen minutes. I set most of my computers to three minutes. Assuming I timed it in the absolute worst way and reset a machine which was one second short of completing a WU, I'd lose 2 minutes and 59 seconds of production.
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