6200 vs 9600

nomannoman pakistan
edited May 2005 in Hardware
hi,

how would a nvidia 6200 agp compare against radeon 9600
is it true that radeon 9550 can be changed to 9600?
so
6200 has sm3(dx9c) support while radeon has sm2(dx9b)
6200(128bit 300mhz) vs 9600 pro/non pro
6200(64bit 350mh) vs 9600 pro/non pro

i am casual gamer.......but need a little future proofing

Comments

  • GrayFoxGrayFox /dev/urandom Member
    edited April 2005
    Hello the 6200 would be faster then the 9600 if you have fast ram and about a gig (it steals ram from your system it only has 16mb of its own ram)
    Yes its true a 9550 can be modded to a 9600 or 9600pro :) my buddys sapphire is running @ a 9600pro and all we had to do was change the cooler and flash a new bios on it.

    dx9C will not make a diffrence that will ever be worth anything (less of a diffrence then dx8 and dx8.1)
    6200 128bit would win agenst a 9600 series but the the 64 bit would lose.


    I would highly recomend the 9600 over the 6200 if you have less then 1gb of ram.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited April 2005
    Grayfox is right. But I would say that the best way to futureproof would be to just get One of these 9800 Pro's for $129.99 and move into the 256bit world.. That is a steal of a deal! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
  • SonorousSonorous F@H Fanatic US Icrontian
    edited April 2005
    (it steals ram from your system it only has 16mb of its own ram)

    what do you mean it only has 16megs of ram and steals from your system? :confused::confused:
  • GrayFoxGrayFox /dev/urandom Member
    edited April 2005
    The card only has 16mb on it but nvidia designed it to be able to use your system ram too (up to 256mb of it) thats a bad thing because your system ram gets used by the card. (if you don't have a gig)

    edit: apon a quick google there is no agp version aveable.
  • FearTheTerpFearTheTerp
    edited April 2005
    There's two types of 6200's. The TurboCache and the regular version. The TurboCache is just a very crappy card with a good name. I have a friend with a regular 6200 and he managed to mod it into a 6600. So I would say the 6200 is better if your willing to overclock it a bit.
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited May 2005
    guys......

    let me clear some confusion.

    1-i am asking about 6200 agp (not pci-e which uses system ram)
    2-there are two versions of 6200 agp now...
    i) simple 6200 with 128bit 128mb ram with 6600's core.
    www.inno3d.com/products/geforce6/6200.html


    ii)newer 6200A with 64bit 128mb ram with 6200 pci-e core but not turbo cache( which means it does not use system ram..uses its own ram)
    www.inno3d.com/products/geforce6/6200a.html
    3- how much of a drawback is a 64bit vs 128bit?

    if we compare 64bit 6200A agp with 9600 then the two questions.

    6200A has 64bits ram but its dx9c and sm3 compliant.
    9600 has 128bits but its only dx8/8.1 and sm2 compliant.

    people have told me that although 6200A is sm3 compliant but its 64bit memory will make those features useless.

    so.......i hope now you guys understand my position more clearly.

    difference b/w 9550,9600,9600 pro is only clockspeed.... should i get 9600 pro/non pro or is it pretty sure that 9550 will oc?
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited May 2005
    128bit will make a much bigger differance than dx9 and sm3. For the money a 9550 is by far the best deal. It will also depend on the manufacurer as to the memory used concerning overclockability. My wife currently has an Asus 9550 in her machine and it is so close behind her son's built by ATI 9600 Pro at stock speeds that I couldn't justify the differance in cost. BTW both machines are practically identical w/ NF7-S rev 2 (newer model), XP2400 35W mobile and Corsair XMS3200XLL if that helps.
  • madmatmadmat
    edited May 2005
    The 6200 128bit model is also sm3 compliant (the 6600 is as well) so if sm3 is what you're looking for the 6200 128bit version would be the way to go.

    On the flipside you could spend a few dollars extra and get the 9800Pro or about $100 more and get a 6800NU that you might be able to unlock into a 128MB GT with RivaTuner but then again, you might not.

    It all depends on what games you play, how purdy you like them to look and most importantly how deep your pockets are.

    Good luck. :thumbsup:
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited May 2005
    mtgoat wrote:
    BTW both machines are practically identical w/ NF7-S rev 2 (newer model), XP2400 35W mobile and Corsair XMS3200XLL if that helps.

    both which? 9550&9600 pro or you are talking abt 6200A and 9600? and also identical in what way?

    now i am thinking that........if i get a 6200 128bit then ok otherwise i should go for 9600 pro or some oc'able 9550
    right?

    btw.......the 6xxx series bosts a lot about video playback and on chip video processor,pure video etc etc...........do you guys think that these things are any better than ati? or is it just marketing?
    last question is directed to those who have used both ati 9xxx and nvidia 6xxx.


    how much ,if any, difference will sm3.0 dx9c will make?

    like 6200A 64bit is completely sm3.0 dx9c compliant but will these feature make up for 64bit memory? or they are just there to be written and not functional with the power that 6200A delivers? can these feature boost performance?
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited May 2005
    noman wrote:
    both which? 9550&9600 pro or you are talking abt 6200A and 9600? and also identical in what way?

    now i am thinking that........if i get a 6200 128bit then ok otherwise i should go for 9600 pro or some oc'able 9550
    right?

    btw.......the 6xxx series bosts a lot about video playback and on chip video processor,pure video etc etc...........do you guys think that these things are any better than ati? or is it just marketing?
    last question is directed to those who have used both ati 9xxx and nvidia 6xxx.


    how much ,if any, difference will sm3.0 dx9c will make?

    like 6200A 64bit is completely sm3.0 dx9c compliant but will these feature make up for 64bit memory? or they are just there to be written and not functional with the power that 6200A delivers? can these feature boost performance?

    I was referring to the machine my wife has w/ a 9550 and my step-son's machine w/ a 9600 Pro being identical except for the vid cards.

    I was also trying to tell you that dx9c is nothing over dx9b and that w/ 128bit your memory runs 2X as fast as a card w/ 64bit. PLEASE JUST STOP AND LISTEN AND RE-READ THIS THREAD WITH AN OPEN MIND!!!
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited May 2005
    got it man.........

    1-6200 128bit.
    2-radeon 9550/9600 pro

    thanx for tolerating me......

    but video playback question is valid..don't u think so?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited May 2005
    It's just marketing.
  • nomannoman pakistan
    edited May 2005
    all bulshiit???

    i thought it might be actual because its relatively newere generation cards than ati's.....
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited May 2005
    noman wrote:
    all bulshiit???

    i thought it might be actual because its relatively newere generation cards than ati's.....
    Yeah, I remember the first Maxtor boxes with "Super ATA133 Performance" on them! ;D
  • SobePmpSobePmp
    edited May 2005
    FearTheTerp wrote:
    There's two types of 6200's. The TurboCache and the regular version. The TurboCache is just a very crappy card with a good name. I have a friend with a regular 6200 and he managed to mod it into a 6600. So I would say the 6200 is better if your willing to overclock it a bit.
    There are more than 2. I have a BFG 6200 OC 256MB AGP.
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