xp vs. 64

Nightwolf

I'm building a new computer and trying to decide on a processor, i don't have tons of money, just enough for either an xp system or a 64-bit 2800+. My question is how much faster do the 64-bit processors run than the xp's since windowsxp is 32-bit?

Nightwolf

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Mt_Goat

Maybe you could put a little more detail into your question.

Like:

What do you want to do w/ the new comp?
How much do you have to spend?
Are you planning on re-using any current parts? And what ones?
How long till you plan on replacing what you build now? (So as to get an idea of future proofing)



teh old goat

Nightwolf

It'll be a gaming rig, basicly just for hl2 and counter-strike.
I have no parts i will be re-using.
I have about $700 just towards computer (already got monitor, mouse, etc......)
Probably won't replace it for about 2 years, at less somthing serious happens to it.

Mt_Goat

Here are two examples of what can be done in proximity to your budget. Sorry if I went over but it was hard to do and keep quality components. I hope this helps and shows how close you can get with a given amount of cash for two machines of different levels.


A64 budget gamer $773.99
The A-64 system was intended to be upgradeable in the future and would run any current game nicely. It could be modified a bit to accomodate a slightly smaller budget but component quality on memory and some other parts would suffer or be reduced.
MSI K8N Neo4-F Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $90.00
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester Integrated into Chip FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3000BIBOX - $147.00
OCZ Enhanced Latency 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) $134.49
MSI NX6600GT-TD128E Geforce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI-Express x16 Video Card - Retail $176.00
Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $57.50
SAMSUNG TS-H352A/BEBP Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive - OEM $24.50
SONY MPF920 Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive - OEM $10.50
Antec Solution SLK3000-B Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $49.00
Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply - Retail $85.00


Best $700 Socket A gamer $722.97
This is a very nice, high end XP socket A machine that would hold its own in this class. But it would n't be as smooth in games as the machine listed above for not much less. This could also be modified to help with budget restraints.
ABIT NF7-S V2 Socket A (Socket 462) NVIDIA nForce2 SPP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $82.00
AMD Mobile Athlon XP-M 2600+ (45W) Barton 266MHz FSB Socket A Processor Model AXMG2600FQQ4C - OEM $95.00
THERMALRIGHT SI-97 ALUMINUM HEATPIPE COOLER - AMD $39.99
PANAFLO FBA09A12M 90X25MM HYDRO WAVE BEARING FAN 48CFM 30DBA $9.99
OCZ Enhanced Latency 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) $134.49
SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800PRO 128M Radeon 9800PRO 128MB DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card - OEM $129.00
Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $57.50
SAMSUNG TS-H352A/BEBP Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive - OEM $24.50
SONY MPF920 Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive - OEM $10.50
Antec Solution SLK3000-B Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $49.00
Antec TRUE480BLUE ATX 480W Power Supply - Retail $91.00

Nightwolf

Thats and expensive power supply, But this helps give me a good idea of a budget gaming rig. I also have a friend who went through 3 msi motherboards, they all had problems.

Mt_Goat

Nightwolf wrote:

Thats and expensive power supply, But this helps give me a good idea of a budget gaming rig. I also have a friend who went through 3 msi motherboards, they all had problems.

MSI is actually one of the best for boards. It is quite possible that it was a cheap power supply that did them in!

You will need that kind of PSU for good reliable power and it would likely be worth keeping when you upgrade.

Nightwolf

are the socket 754 semprons ne good?

Mt_Goat

Nightwolf wrote:

are the socket 754 semprons ne good?

It's nopt that they arn't godd, the A-64 939pin is just way ahead of it. When I speced out the two systems above I also did a 754 Sempron and a 754 A-64 and the price was in between the two I posted. The performance would be way behind the A-64 and only about $30.00 less!!!

Nightwolf

i should make note of one thing, I'm not looking to build the ultimate gaming rig. Just something that will satisfy my needs. I'm sure either processor will do better than what i'm on now:

2.49GHz 400MHz fsb Pentium4
512mp pc-2700
Asus mobo
Onboard video :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

^I beat hl2 with that system.........

Mt_Goat

Nightwolf wrote:

i should make note of one thing, I'm not looking to build the ultimate gaming rig. Just something that will satisfy my needs. I'm sure either processor will do better than what i'm on now:

2.49GHz 400MHz fsb Pentium4
512mp pc-2700
Asus mobo
Onboard video :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

^I beat hl2 with that system.........

I wasn't configureing the ultimate machine, just a good value for a relatively small amout of cash. Real ultimate gaming rigs cost a bundle!

PS
check your PM's

SoLo

umm..lol hl2 low settings..maybe

Nightwolf

O yeah, everything low. I was surprised i was able to.... Not horrible lag even in intense situations.