I may be mistaken, but I think MS will allow you to run it on two machines as long as:
A) You call them up and ask
B) One of the computers is a laptop
They had so many business people complain about needing two licenses when they were only using one computer at a time that they will tolerate people doing it under those conditions.
I may be mistaken, but I think MS will allow you to run it on two machines as long as:
A) You call them up and ask
B) One of the computers is a laptop
They had so many business people complain about needing two licenses when they were only using one computer at a time that they will tolerate people doing it under those conditions.
If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will point it out.
Last I checked... each PC needs it's own OS license. Office, I believe, allows a portable copy to be installed.
I doubt it Prof. I practicly have to pinky-swear with the activation rep on the phone that I didn't just install Windows on a second machine concurrently with another one.
They must think I change motherboards all the time!
I may be mistaken, but I think MS will allow you to run it on two machines as long as:
A) You call them up and ask
B) One of the computers is a laptop
They had so many business people complain about needing two licenses when they were only using one computer at a time that they will tolerate people doing it under those conditions.
If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will point it out.
OS needs to be per copy per machine, no licence sharing is allowed (unless of course under a volume licence agreement)
The only exception to this is Office which allows for a second install on a home machine from a business registered copy.
If you have multiple validly licensed copies of the applicable OS Product(s), you may reproduce, install, and use one copy of the Operating System Components as part of such applicable OS Product(s) on all of your computers running validly licensed copies of the OS Product(s) provided that you use such additional copies of the Operating System Components in accordance with the terms and conditions above. For each validly licensed copy of the applicable OS Product, you also may reproduce one additional copy of the Operating System Components solely for archival purposes or reinstallation of the Operating System Components on the same computer as the Operating System Components were previously installed. Microsoft retains all right, title, and interest in and to the Operating System Components. All rights not expressly granted are reserved by Microsoft.
OEM copies also cannot be transfered from an old machine to a new machine - if an old OEM install dies, the licence dies with it.
More info of M$ restrictive practices can be found here
and here
eg: What happens when you try to install and activate on more PCs than the end user license agreement (EULA) allows?
Per the EULA, installing on more PCs than the EULA allows would be in violation of the EULA. Technically, product activation does not limit the number of PCs the software can be installed on. It would be possible technically to install the software on, for example, 100 PCs. Activation would fail though on 99 (98 for Office XP or Office 2003) of those 100 PCs thereby limiting the usefulness of the illegal installation. Outside of an activation attempt, Microsoft does not know how many PCs Windows XP, Office XP family product, or Office 2003 System product have been installed on.
tcith, we know. everyone is saying that if you call them and ask nicely they will usually allow it. there is what the EULA says, and there is what really happens when you call.
tcith, we know. everyone is saying that if you call them and ask nicely they will usually allow it. there is what the EULA says, and there is what really happens when you call.
Which might be happening in the USA but does NOT happen here in Aus - my MS licencing manager at MS is adamant that two copies even for home use from one licence is a breach, you might be lucky that a call centre monkey will bend the rules but in the end it is still illegal - also the new Genuine advantage program that started yesterday will mean one copy will not be able to be authenticated to get updates, the other will be rejected as an illegal copy. Just tested this on our test bed, the second machine on the same non bulk licence with the same key is now saying it's a suspect copy and can no longer access windows update
I am a bit bothered by this thread - usually short media is a bastion of anti hacking, cracking and piracy - to the point that people (usually veterans) often will tell the hopefull script kiddie/cracker/pirate that they are wasting their time in these forums.
but here in this thread there seems to be a advocacy of "if you ask MS nicely they will let you break their EULA" and many omissions of how people have multiple copies of the OS they have not payed for which goes beyond even bending the EULA.
I think that tcith and QCH are 100% correct - Office on 2 machines used non-concurrently: yes. Windows on 2 machines used non-concurrently: NO (Illegal, against the EULA, and against forum rules to discuss, IIRC).
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Legally - no
A) You call them up and ask
B) One of the computers is a laptop
They had so many business people complain about needing two licenses when they were only using one computer at a time that they will tolerate people doing it under those conditions.
If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will point it out.
Last I checked... each PC needs it's own OS license. Office, I believe, allows a portable copy to be installed.
They must think I change motherboards all the time!
OS needs to be per copy per machine, no licence sharing is allowed (unless of course under a volume licence agreement)
The only exception to this is Office which allows for a second install on a home machine from a business registered copy.
If you have multiple validly licensed copies of the applicable OS Product(s), you may reproduce, install, and use one copy of the Operating System Components as part of such applicable OS Product(s) on all of your computers running validly licensed copies of the OS Product(s) provided that you use such additional copies of the Operating System Components in accordance with the terms and conditions above. For each validly licensed copy of the applicable OS Product, you also may reproduce one additional copy of the Operating System Components solely for archival purposes or reinstallation of the Operating System Components on the same computer as the Operating System Components were previously installed. Microsoft retains all right, title, and interest in and to the Operating System Components. All rights not expressly granted are reserved by Microsoft.
OEM copies also cannot be transfered from an old machine to a new machine - if an old OEM install dies, the licence dies with it.
More info of M$ restrictive practices can be found
here
and
here
eg:
What happens when you try to install and activate on more PCs than the end user license agreement (EULA) allows?
Per the EULA, installing on more PCs than the EULA allows would be in violation of the EULA. Technically, product activation does not limit the number of PCs the software can be installed on. It would be possible technically to install the software on, for example, 100 PCs. Activation would fail though on 99 (98 for Office XP or Office 2003) of those 100 PCs thereby limiting the usefulness of the illegal installation. Outside of an activation attempt, Microsoft does not know how many PCs Windows XP, Office XP family product, or Office 2003 System product have been installed on.
Which might be happening in the USA but does NOT happen here in Aus - my MS licencing manager at MS is adamant that two copies even for home use from one licence is a breach, you might be lucky that a call centre monkey will bend the rules but in the end it is still illegal - also the new Genuine advantage program that started yesterday will mean one copy will not be able to be authenticated to get updates, the other will be rejected as an illegal copy. Just tested this on our test bed, the second machine on the same non bulk licence with the same key is now saying it's a suspect copy and can no longer access windows update
but here in this thread there seems to be a advocacy of "if you ask MS nicely they will let you break their EULA" and many omissions of how people have multiple copies of the OS they have not payed for which goes beyond even bending the EULA.
just an observation .....................