Athlon XP3200 vs Athlon 64 3500

edited August 2005 in Hardware
I am confused the XP3200 runs at 2200mhz but so does the Athlon 64 3500 according to the 2 PC's that I have built, shouldnt the 64 3500 run faster??

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  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited August 2005
    The 3200 Newcastle socket 754 is 2.2GHz where the 3200 socket 939 CPU's run @ 2.0GHz. The 3500 socket 939 (Newcastle, Clawhammer, Winchester and Venice cores) run @ 2.2GHz. AMD apparently gives a lot of credit to the socket 939's dual channel capabilities. But in real life the CPU rakings are getting kinda screwed up with their formulas as I don't think they accurately reflect the true performance capabilities. If I were to be looking for a new A64 system right now I would have to say the best deal is by far the Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 2.0GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 if you plan on overclocking. With recent price drops the Athlon 64 3500+ Venice 2.2GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 would be good for those who don't want to overclock but want the extra speed as marginal of an icrease as it is.
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited August 2005
    he was asking about AXP 3200+ though, not A64's
  • sfleurietsfleuriet Texas New
    edited August 2005
    yeah the Athlon XP 3200+ Barton core has a clock speed of 2.2GHz also
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited August 2005
    I am confused the XP3200 runs at 2200mhz but so does the Athlon 64 3500 according to the 2 PC's that I have built, shouldnt the 64 3500 run faster??
    Athlon XP 3200+ 512K S462 2.2ghz - Dual Channel Northbridge Based Memory Controller (Normal Speed Memory Access)
    Athlon 64 3200+ 512K S754 2.2ghz - Single Channel CPU based Memory Controller (Faster Memory Access)
    Athlon 64 3500+ 512K S939 2.2ghz - Dual Channel CPU based Memory Controller (MUCH Faster Memory Access)
    Athlon 64 3700+ 1024K S939 2.2ghz - Dual Channel CPU based Memory Controller (MUCH Faster Memory Access)

    Athlon 64 blow Athlon XP out of the water when it comes to Actual work done per clock. The difference is astounding.....

    Click the link in my signature to the Single vs Dual channel Athlon 64 Article. It also contains benchmarks for the Athlon XP 3200+
    Omega65 wrote:
    The Athlon X2 3800+ (Dual 2.0ghz 512K Cores) launched today for ~$400. Think of it as Dual Opteron 246. I would also expect to see an Dual Core 1.8ghz 512K (3400+ ?) in 3-5 months. AMD has been keeping its CPU clock speeds in the 1.8-2.4ghz range for 4 yrs and have just been adding features to increase the model # & price.



    _______AthlonXP_____S754__S939__X2-512MB__X2-1024MB
    1.8ghz___2500+_____2800+__3000+__(3400+)__(3600+)
    2.0ghz___3000+_____3000+__3200+___3800+____4000+
    2.2ghz___3200+_____3200+__3500+___4200+____4400+
    2.4ghz_____________3400+__3800+___4600+____4800+
    
  • edited August 2005
    WOW thanks for the help guys!!

    very interesting indeed! however there arent any applications for the 64cpu that can utilise all its power is there? apart from far cry 64 but then you need windows 64 but hear thats got problems...

    Another thing is i hear this thing called the memory controller is on the 64bit cpu's? whats that mean? does that mean even though my abit an8 fatal1ty can take pc3200 ram i can instead stick a pc4400 module in and it will run at pc4400 speeds??

    and lastly what does hyper transport mean? apparently my board is 2ghz HT??
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited August 2005
    PC3200 = 200mhz
    PC4400 = 275mhz

    Athlon 64 have a base clock of 200mhz. To run at 275mhz you'll have to overclock Many people are running their CPU at 275mhz 10x multiplier = 2750mhz or Higher
  • edited August 2005
    thanks for that, however i am finding Uguru to be giving me problems as i can use that in windows to Overclock, whats the settings i should use in the bios to overclock my cpu please? i have an Abit An8 fatal1ty non sli motherboard. I have 2x512mb OCZ ultra performance ram with cl2.5 PC3200

    Thanks!
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited August 2005
    windows based overclocking is not the way to go about things. learn what you're doing, and tweak the settings manually in the bios
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