Athlon 64 benchmark shootout!

muddocktormuddocktor
edited September 2003 in Science & Tech
The article is in French(I think) but the graphs speak the universal language. Interesting shootout between Athlon 64, Tbred B Duron, Pee4 and Pee4 EE. Pretty much a mixed bag, from looking at the charts. I imagine that we'll see some stuff soon in English for people like me who don't know other languages. Attached is the Super Pi graph:

EDIT: OOPS, forgot the link!:rolleyes2

http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/cpu/k8-2/a64-6.htm

Comments

  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    link pls :)

    thx :D
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited September 2003
    Just ran Super Pi on my NF2 rig, here's what I got.
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited September 2003
    looking at all those #'s, it would seem that intel is in fact not out of it. but i've seen much different numbers from the athlons from independant sources, and it doesn't foster my trust that i cant read the french
  • CyrixInsteadCyrixInstead Stoke-on-Trent, England Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    How about this as a translated version?

    Link

    ~Cyrix
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited September 2003
    Even if these benchmarks are accurate (and I don't truly have a reason to disbelieve them, yet) I'm not concerned.

    Let us take into account a few things.

    1. First-generation motherboards/chipsets/BIOS. I highly doubt these motherboards, chipsets and BIOS are optimal.

    2. First-generation CPU. I'm sure as AMD is able to really ramp up in production the yields on higher-end chips (2.4GHz and higher) will be decent.

    3. The 90-nanometer version of the AMD64 CPUs should be here next year and should allow for higher clocking, and possibly will be much more optimized.

    4. Software, software, software! It will take months (possibly a year or more) for the software used in benchmarking to be truly optimized for the AMD64 platform. The software you see today in benchmarks has already been optimized for the Pentium4.

    5. This is software, too, but very special software: Operating System. The 64-bit O/S used in this article was beta/alpha software. Let Microsoft come out with a release version of its 64-bit OS and let's see how it performs.

    6. I want to see compiler tests! I program, so show me how fast this thing will compile. Be it compiling the Linux kernel, or compiling Mozilla or compiling a bunch of nothing. Show me how fast the AMD64 platform is TODAY in regards to compiling!

    Ok, No. 6 is just an "I want" not a "to be considered" when looking at the performance of the platform . . . unless you're like me and compile stuff, but us programmer geeks are even semi-rare among geeks. :)
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    I'm not worried, and not for the reasons listed above.

    It proves that AMD has an FPU that can beat the p4 at 1Ghz+ now. The old gap was 600MHz. AMD's new chip just tacked on 400MHz to the allowable speed gap.
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited September 2003
    It tacked on 400MHz to the Northwood, not Prescott core. Prescott will have a longer pipeline, so we could see 400MHz extended, or the further optimization of the core could mean 400MHz being eaten into. Also, when AMD switches to 90-nanometers we'll have yet another core to benchmark, which hopefully will bring optimizations and not just a die shrink.

    I'm very excited about the AMD64 line of CPUs. Some benchmarks I've seen yesterday (French) and today (American) show the Athlon64 ahead in some test and behind in others. If buying a CPU today, I think the Athlon64 isn't the way to go (for myself, and most others) but in the future with optimizations to chipsets and BIOSs and to the CPU itself will brind higher performance and software optimizations will be WONDERFUL for performance. AnandTech has some great stuff illustrating 64-bit Linux and then compiling apps for 64-bits and 32-bits and then testing them. 64-bit apps were smokin'! And that's using a compiler that definitely could use some more optimizations itself (GCC).
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