Does anyone here use a music subscription service?

edited December 2005 in Science & Tech
I have read about the new napster and whatnot. I'm curious, do you download the files and then the have a decay on them? How does it work?

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  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited November 2005
    I use Napster. What do you mean by decay?

    I play the $10 a month for the basic subscription. The sucky thing is that the files will stop working if you cancel your subscription. I hear that some people use a program called Tunebite (free trial) to convert these files into unprotected MP3s. Seems like a good way to go.

    Napster's music selection is pretty good. Not a big fan of the program's interface, but I do like it better than iTunes.
  • ShortyShorty Manchester, UK Icrontian
    edited November 2005
    I didn't know that application was out there :eek: Il keep my subscription going though. I like shopping for tunes online :)
  • Private_SnoballPrivate_Snoball Dover AFB, DE, USA
    edited November 2005
    I personally use Tunebite, it's the absolute best software I ever bought. I converted 400 songs into unprotected files in a day while I was sleeping and then at school. The best part was if I bought them from iTunes it would have been 400 dollars, instead I payed for 2 months of napster ($30) and tune bite (17.99).

    I don't have to worry about the RIAA ****ting a brick cause it will be 10 years before they realize this software is out there. :thumbsup:
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited November 2005
    I don't have to worry about the RIAA ****ting a brick cause it will be 10 years before they realize this software is out there. :thumbsup:

    And then, there's little they can do about it. My understanding is that there's some loophole dating back from the cassette tape days that makes analog -> digital recording okay. Or at least, it's held up in court so far.
  • edited November 2005
    Hey that's cool, Garg. I didn't know that app was around either. I might just try out some online tunes now. :D
  • Private_SnoballPrivate_Snoball Dover AFB, DE, USA
    edited November 2005
    Gargoyle wrote:
    And then, there's little they can do about it. My understanding is that there's some loophole dating back from the cassette tape days that makes analog -> digital recording okay. Or at least, it's held up in court so far.

    Not to mention the fact it's nearly impossible to track it. You've legally downloaded files onto your computer through a private company. Through another private company you legally bought software from. What you do from there can only be seen on your harddrive, and it still takes someone searching that. It's like the little I WIN button against the RIAA.
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited November 2005
    heh heh heh...im gonna make an note to myself about that...gonna go check this out..ive never heard of it.

    //edit

    so let me get this right..you play the song through wmp, or and mp..n/m that doesnt matter..and this thing senses when the song starts and stops? how does it know what the meta data is and when to start and stop recording..

    i thought that there were app that would directly transcode the files to unprotected...i mean if you do it while you own the license for the music, it leagal to transcode, but only while you own the license... :rolleyes:
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited November 2005
    To my knowledge, it only works with WMP and iTunes, becuase it uses a plugin for said apps to get the metadata.
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited November 2005
    oh. so does it not have any loss, im sure it has to. because its prob taking the analog stereo signal from your soundcard and looping it back. and there would be some sound degredation that way.

    idk..
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited November 2005
    There is technically some degredation. I haven't been able to notice it, though. Think of it like a copy machine. If you keep make a copy of a copy of a copy (and so forth), eventually you'll notice some degredation in quality, but usually not after the first pass.

    To help on that front, I record into OGG rather than MP3. I found a review once (haven't been able to find it again) to compared OGG to MP3 at different bitrates to see which was better. OGG seemed to be less lossy at the bitrates I used (160-192kbps).
  • edited December 2005
    Heh, I'm reviving this old thread. ;D;D

    I just bought Tunebite yesterday while out here on the rig and started a subscription to Napster and Tunebite absolutely roxxors your boxxors! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

    So far I've d/l'ed and converted 3 albums worth of music today while working and it's neat as hell. It even rips at 4X speed, so a whole album's worth of music doesn't take long. :mullet:
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2005
    heh. try 4000 songs in about 2 weeks. thats why i was gone for a while if anyone noticed. heh heh heh, that took awhile for tunebite to chug through.

    napster + tunebite = :D

    best thing is that its completly legal, although not nescesarily ethical. but i pay the $10 a month cause its worth it. although i am against illegal sharing of music :D
  • DoctorGeo2008DoctorGeo2008 Flint, MI
    edited December 2005
    I just d/led the trial of Tunebite to try it out and the original song is a lot clearer than the converted song. I wonder if sound card hardware has anything to do with the quality of the converted song. :scratch:
  • edited December 2005
    I just d/led the trial of Tunebite to try it out and the original song is a lot clearer than the converted song. I wonder if sound card hardware has anything to do with the quality of the converted song. :scratch:

    Most definitely, since it is taking the analog output of the sound card and digitizing it. Plus, you need to save the mp3's in a high bit rate too; I use 192kbps bit rate myself. The higher the bit rate you convert too, the higher the quality of the mp3 of course. :) You might also try saving them as OGG files like Gargoyle said for a clearer copy. Also, your ears might be more discriminating than mine too as I'm noticing virtually no difference myself (laptop I'm using uses the AC97 codec).
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