VS 2005 TEAM SYSTEM : WTF Microsoft ?

GooD

Im actually testing this new product of microsoft and this is a GREAT product. The TEAM SYSTEM edition makes a all-in-one of everything we were using for years 'on our side' and they include it in the developpement process (like FXCOP) and some rulz that let you say 'no one can make a check-in on source safe without running FXCOP)

They also did a lot to make the TEAM SYSTEM at the center of the building process. Instead of before where some are using analist tools and others are using VS 2003 or any other product like this, with TEAM SYSTEM everyone USE the same application, analist and programmer using the same project, the same source-safe... This is just great !

So why i am angry then ? The price of this version is just ridiculiously TOO HIGH ! I was testing it when it was beta and then now it's released and i got the price... It would cost us like 3000CDN per VS-kit licence (so 1 for each system) for 3 years of licence !

If your are like me and ur in a 5man developpement team, then it's 3000*5 only for the licence for 3 years.
Well, at this price they can be sure i'll say it's a great product, THAT I WONT BUY.

I came here as maybe some other people around here have heard of VS 2005 and the TEAM eidtion and would want some feedback. If you want it then you can try to find a cracked version if you don't care about being legal, cuz any at this price MS is trying to steal us anyway with a great revolutionning product line that they can put out of price. Otherwise do like me and wait until they realize they don't sell that much and they drop the price (maybe )

EDIT : Microsoft developpement suit (VS) has a always been a little pricy but this time they cross a dangerous limit, MY limit lol

GooD

As some of you maybe don't know what FXCOP is, it's a little program that can check-up a VS solution and found almost every synthax problem and gives alert and tips on how to correct your code.

It helps a lot if you got 2 or more programmers to have ONE way to code and helps to avoid a finishing product that got a module coded in a joe-blow way and 2 other modules in a mike-fisher way heh.

With some xml template u can watch pretty much every synthaxic problem that can be found in a .Net solution

Shorty

How much

Holy hell, that's alot of money. It's all of a question of time & resourcing. If your developers can get a project completed on time or ahead of schedule because of using team system, then money is saved. It depends on the value of your project and what it will provide to the/a business. If a company is losing 1000 a day because of a bug/legacy system. Delivering a solution 5-10 days before the projected date is more than the price of the software

GooD

I've talk to the direction about that but they don't want to buy it only for one 5man team, at the developpement departement at my job we are at least 70. On that al least 40 would be one day or another push to work on a project that need VS TEAM edition... so they saw it as a 40*3000 CND buy... And they said 'holy **** no' lol

I think this edition will be buy by BIG BIG compagny, At long term this WILL save money but it's more in like 3 or 5 years before you see the real benifit (people are slow to move and use new tricks and new technology, especialy those with high seniority (> 30 years of work behind them) lol

This sucks cuz with this TEAM EDITION, in 5 years of heavy spread through the world we would realy see a diffenrece on the quality of an any application done with that, less bug, less fixes, more stability, more easy to fixe

1 way to do, 1 way to change, 1 supervisor that see everything that change in the project. Possibility of creating an empty project from a DER or other class schema... Yes it's good but at this price it wont be use enough through the world 'normal' compagnys because of the price (i work for a compagny of 300 people and they can't even afford it...)

Money rulz the world, and heavy amount of money only to do a 'better clean job' in long range is difficult to defend with director and none technical, bisnessman people :shakehead