Computer Freezes at DOT3 Bump Mapping

CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
edited September 2003 in Hardware
For some reason whenever I run the 3dMark2001SE benchmark the computer freezes when the DOT3 bump mapping benchmarking begins (the swirling hunk of uhh...something thing hahah) any ideas why this is? my setup is as follows

Radeon 9700 pro w/Catalyst 3.7
AMD AthlonXP 2100+ Stock Speed
KT400 Chipset, just upgraded to latest 4in1

I would think this is probably a software setting problem or something maybe? I just upgraded and reinstalled all my mobo/agp/video card drivers and I got AquaMark running fine.

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  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    well I take part of that back, it now freezes in AquaMark as well and has been randomly freezing in C&C Generals
  • leishi85leishi85 Grand Rapids, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    video card overclocked at all??
    is it hot while running those benchmarks??
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Sounds like the GFX card overheating, whenever I ran 3DMark, if my card was going to lock up, it would always be at the DOT3 BM stage.

    NS
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    the card isnt overclocked, I fear you guys may be right tho about heat.

    Does the 9700 Pro (ATi branded card) have automated fan speed adjustment? I thought I heard the fan speed changing the other day when I had opened the case and was (trying) to run 3dmark, I thank maybe the fan on this thing is dying, which is kinda ****ty seeing as how I just got this card in january
  • JBJB Carlsbad, CA
    edited September 2003
    is the card under warranty still? You could send it back of the fan is dying.
  • TheLostSwedeTheLostSwede Trondheim, Norway Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Camman,

    I saw this on 2 brand new Dells with 9700 pro. They just locked up while benching. Just for fun, i tried the Omega drivers and with them, i had no problem at all to go through the benches. Can you just try the Omegas and see if my theory is right? I know you dont have a Dell but anyway.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Nope, no automatic fan speed adjustment. We'll have automatic clock speed adjustment with the Cat 3.8s though...

    If the card isn't warrantied, PM me and I can hook you up with a 9700 Pro stock HSF.
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Mackanz said
    Camman,

    I saw this on 2 brand new Dells with 9700 pro. They just locked up while benching. Just for fun, i tried the Omega drivers and with them, i had no problem at all to go through the benches. Can you just try the Omegas and see if my theory is right? I know you dont have a Dell but anyway.

    sorry Mackanz, I are teh newb, what is omega drivers?
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Omega is a person who alters drivers slightly by mixing and matching parts from all the driver releases and editing some setting to give the best Speed/Quality results.

    http://www.omegacorner.com/

    NS
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    uninstalled the ATi Drivers/CP, installed OmegaDrivers/CP, but to no avail. Took out the card, cleaned out all the dust off of everything, looked closer at fan upon running and actually it seems to be working fine, I think the fan I heard whining before was one of my case fans that looks to be on its last legs.
    Now that I've looked at it closer I don't think it could be a cooling issue, because I had the computer off and then ran the test immediately, felt the HSF on the 9700 pro, wasnt even warm yet, and, AquaMark always freezes at the EXACT same point, I dont think a cooling issue would be that exact.

    I guess I'm gonna try to reinstall DX9. now..
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    when I disabled "fast write" in the BIOS (and consequently SMARTGART shows Fast Write as off in Windows now) it seems to have fixed the problem, but at the cost of a slight performance hit... :(
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    The only thing that Fast Writes gave me a performance bonus in was EMBM (Enviromental Bump Mapping) which increased about 70fps, but no other tests got a single fps increase.

    Though with FW turned on I would get an Infinite loop error at some point in time (entirely random).

    NS
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Fast Writes are a crock anyway. You don't need them. Omega states that it should be disabled for his drivers anyway, and they automatically disable through software when installed... maybe that's why they worked for you, Mac?
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    nevermind about that fixing it....well it fixed it so AquaMark runs now, but, 3dmark still freezes at DOT3 bump mapping
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Just don't use 3dMark... ;)
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    yeah, but I think this is the same thing causing the problem in C&C Generals, it will play okay for random amounts of time then just everything freezes but the sound for like 10 seconds, then the comp restarts
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Try installing the 4in1 one version back and see if the problems go away... I had a similar issue once when I upgraded to the latest 4in1s of the time; the AGP driver part of the 4in1s screwed up my mobo...
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Camman said
    yeah, but I think this is the same thing causing the problem in C&C Generals, it will play okay for random amounts of time then just everything freezes but the sound for like 10 seconds, then the comp restarts

    That still sounds like FastWrites. Make sure it is turned off in SmartGart as SG WILL override your BIOS settings.

    NS
  • hypermoodhypermood Smyrna, GA New
    edited September 2003
    Canman,

    I've got the same mobo and vid card and had the same problem. In my case I solved it by snooping around the KT400's PCI configuration register values. 'PCI Delayed Transaction' was the culprit. I know there is a BIOS option for toggling the value, but the register showed it always on no matter what the BIOS options screen said. So try manually forcing it off.

    Search the web for WPCREDIT and the KT400 register template file. Then boot windows run WPCREDIT go to the register at offset 0x70 and set bit 1 to 0. Run your benchmarks and see what happens. If this fixes your problem, you can use WPCRSET to always force this value when windows loads.

    HTH
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    wow man, thanks, Ill check that out
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