Gunna get my hands on a 3.2c / 9800 pro AIW
So, scratch my last post about that new AMD system I was building ... I have recently acuired a P4 3.2c HT.
So I have a few questions.
I plan to upgrade my motherboard from an intel 875 (basic, no extra features except onboard lan and sound) to either an Abit IC7 or Asus P4C800.
What memory is recommended (plan to OC of course)? I found some knigston hyperx DDR434 (2-3-3-7-1 stock) for a decent price. Is it anygood? There is also some corsair for a little bit more with the same timings/speed.
Next question, I am also getting a 9800 pro with the chip, but I havea choice of either an AIW Pro or just the standard Pro. Do the extra features of the AIW hurt the performance of the card at all? I wouldn't think it would .. but it never hurts to ask.
After I build this beast I will post my 3dmark scores and settings.
So I have a few questions.
I plan to upgrade my motherboard from an intel 875 (basic, no extra features except onboard lan and sound) to either an Abit IC7 or Asus P4C800.
What memory is recommended (plan to OC of course)? I found some knigston hyperx DDR434 (2-3-3-7-1 stock) for a decent price. Is it anygood? There is also some corsair for a little bit more with the same timings/speed.
Next question, I am also getting a 9800 pro with the chip, but I havea choice of either an AIW Pro or just the standard Pro. Do the extra features of the AIW hurt the performance of the card at all? I wouldn't think it would .. but it never hurts to ask.
After I build this beast I will post my 3dmark scores and settings.
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I didn't want to go the Intel route because I'm on a tight budget, but I'm getting this stuff for so cheap I couldn't pass up on the offer. I plan to gut my shuttle and sell the 9700 pro and put the M-Audio in the P4 system. Then I can use my little barebone box for work and the P4 for everythign else at home.
I wonder how high I can get the cpu on an slk900.....
found that on some memory site. 58$ a chip.
this is the one?
Uh... the memory... well depends on how you want to spend for it. Something that would surely be damn fast is "Buffalo Technology PC4200 512MB DDR DIMM Hynix Chipset 32X8 - OEM ". DDR533 and cas 2.5. That memory definetly won't bottleneck your p4, but it does come at a very expensive price and also it's $209 per every 512 stick so you wouldn't be able to take advantage of Dual channel.
Another option is "Mushkin Level 2 DDR 512MB PC3500 Model 991096 - OEM" These sticks have amazing timings, but i'm not too sure if they can make it to 275 fsb or higher. $155
Also what i will be putting in my new p4c system is "Buffalo Technology 512MB 6 Layer PC3700 DDR Memory Module 32X8 (Winbond Module), DD466-512 - OEM" Uses bh5 chips in the memory and comes at a very nice price. $99/512 stick. The reviews on newegg seem to be a little skeptic, but it's your choice.
Do you mind telling us how you received this wonderful deal on the 3.2c? I am in the market for a p4, but i'm most likely looking at a 2.4c or at best 2.6.
So I have a few questions.
I plan to upgrade my motherboard from an intel 875 (basic, no extra features except onboard lan and sound) to either an Abit IC7 or Asus P4C800.
Both are wonderful boards, especially the IC7-MAX3. I sided with the P4C800-E Deluxe and it's a great board, but you would be happy with either.
What memory is recommended (plan to OC of course)? I found some knigston hyperx DDR434 (2-3-3-7-1 stock) for a decent price. Is it anygood? There is also some corsair for a little bit more with the same timings/speed.
It depends on what you will be doing. You have to run the high latency ram (ie PC3700 & PC4000) at bus speeds of higher than 250 MHz in order to counteract the extremely high latency (3-4-4-7). Nobody really knows how high the 3.2C will go, as it's near the upper limit of the Northwood core. Corsair's XMS3500 2-3-3-7-1 runs well and will allow you to O/C your CPU to a speed of 3500 (233x15) while keeping your RAM @ a 1:1 ratio.
Next question, I am also getting a 9800 pro with the chip, but I havea choice of either an AIW Pro or just the standard Pro. Do the extra features of the AIW hurt the performance of the card at all? I wouldn't think it would .. but it never hurts to ask.
The AIW 9800 Pro performs exactly like the 9800 Pro version. Both use the same R360 core.
The 512 sticks clocks much worse but that is a chipset limitation, not the memory itself. No board that i know of can handle dual banks memory the way they handle singlebanks. The memorycontroller just draws to much power. Modding the 3.3 volt line can help a little, maybe 10-15 fsb.
I'm lost ....
Don't run dual channel? use 512 stick(s) ??
also, the AIW has a TV receiver in it right? does it come with software to also record that?
Yep. ATI's MMC (Multimedia Centre) can be utilized to record any incoming video streams (from a VCR, TV, etc...).
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Sorry, i should have been more precise. Dual channel is when you run 2 sticks that is identical. One stick in each channel since those mainboards have 2 memorychannels. You dont have to do that, but you will gain a lot if you do. 1 gig of memory is so much better if you are into gaming etc since it wont use the harddrive (close to none) for swapfile. With 512 mb of ram, your harddrive will be used a lot more and therefore slow down your overall system speed. If you run 2X512, it wont overclock as high as 2X256 because of the dual bank configuration that the 512 stucks uses. (Basically the memory chips are on both sides of the pcb of the stick even if i have seen differences)
Somehow, i feel i just made it worse for you but i hope not.
no worries, now i understand what you were saying
I'm not looking for the ULTIMATE overclock, but I would like to overclock it as much as possible with my slk900.
Single channel DDR will only provide 3.2 GB/s of memory bandwidth, which severely impairs performance on the P4, which at an 800 MHz FSB speed, needs 6.4 GB/s of memory bandwidth to perfectly match it and optimize performance.
The pc4200 or 3700?
Oh ... anyone know if the koolance watercooling case (exos + 1080 case i think??? i dunno) is anygood? or should i just stick with the slk900 and a bunch of case fans?