What mouse shall I get?

botheredbothered Manchester UK
edited October 2003 in Hardware
I use a MS intellimouse optical. I use to be able to set the buttons for a keystroke (any keyboard key) now I can't. I downloaded the latest drivers from MS. I can set the buttons to any menu item but the keystroke option has gone.
What is a good optical mouse that I can set any button to whatever I want?

bothered.

Comments

  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited October 2003
    Logitech MX700
  • pseudonympseudonym Michigan Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    MX500 same as 700 only cheaper and has a cord.
  • Mr_BojinglesMr_Bojingles Northern Michigan New
    edited October 2003
    i have the logitech mx700 wireless mouse/keyboard combo. I have had for about three months and love it. Unlike some wireless mouses, this one can keep up with the pace of games too.

    Software is included for buttons on the mouse and keyboard.
  • MancabusMancabus Charlottesville, VA
    edited October 2003
    mr_bojingles3264 said
    i have the logitech mx700 wireless mouse/keyboard combo. I have had for about three months and love it. Unlike some wireless mouses, this one can keep up with the pace of games too.

    Software is included for buttons on the mouse and keyboard.

    Hijack!
    How goes the wireless keyboard? There are batteries to change aren't there.
    /end Hijack!

    The MX700 seems to be the only mouse anyone around recommends, I may get one.
  • WuGgaRoOWuGgaRoO Not in the shower Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    mr_bojingles3264 said
    i have the logitech mx700 wireless mouse/keyboard combo. I have had for about three months and love it. Unlike some wireless mouses, this one can keep up with the pace of games too.

    Software is included for buttons on the mouse and keyboard.


    im with him....the mx duo is the 13373st....i mean it really kicks ass...i changed the battery in the keyboard every two months or so
  • edited October 2003
    The MX700 is the best mouse I have ever used. Period.

    If your not looking for a cordless, and want to spend a bit less, the MX500 is also a good choice.
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited October 2003
    MS IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0

    Tried. Proven. Comfortable. Reliable.

    Installing the latest IntelliPoint software allows you to configure the buttons on your mouse however you wish.

    :thumbsdow on the MX700. I bought one, yet it won't track correctly in games at all. I have a tendency to lift the mouse slightly when playing games to shift from one side of the mouse pad to the other... the MX700 does not like that and sends my pointer/cursor flying across the screen. It does the same thing in applications. I thought it might have been something with the mouse... so I exchanged it. No dice. Still does the same thing.

    Changed mouse mats & pads... no dice. So much for $109.00 CDN.

    Back to the MS IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0.
  • botheredbothered Manchester UK
    edited October 2003
    SimGuy said
    MS IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0

    Tried. Proven. Comfortable. Reliable.

    Installing the latest IntelliPoint software allows you to configure the buttons on your mouse however you wish..


    Well, No, it doesn't, that's the point.with the older (4.1) software I could set a button to keystroke then press a keyboard key. The new (5.0) software doesn't have a keystroke option, only menu items and enter. The older software no longer works for me, no idea why.

    bothered.
  • ketoketo Occupied. Or is it preoccupied? Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Another vote for the MX500, the corded version of the 700. Have had one for 6 months and VERY happy with it. It's light, fast and has buttons I dont even use LOL Never worry about input speed or dying/dead batteries.
  • Mr_BojinglesMr_Bojingles Northern Michigan New
    edited October 2003
    Mancabus said
    mr_bojingles3264 said
    i have the logitech mx700 wireless mouse/keyboard combo. I have had for about three months and love it. Unlike some wireless mouses, this one can keep up with the pace of games too.

    Software is included for buttons on the mouse and keyboard.

    Hijack!
    How goes the wireless keyboard? There are batteries to change aren't there.
    /end Hijack!

    The MX700 seems to be the only mouse anyone around recommends, I may get one.

    The batteries in the my keyboard have yet to be changed after about 3 months(they are not rechargable) I can usually use my mouse for 2 or 3 days(depending on use) before having to drop it in the cradle for a quick recharge.
  • GobdGobd Seattle, WA
    edited October 2003
    The bst mouse in the world is the simple blue logitech optical one, all those extra buttons are useless. Just use keyboard shortcuts, but of course then you have to find the perfect keyboard which is even harder than looking for a mouse :)

    You can set any button to whatever you want, as long as they are rightclick, leftclick, scroll, and whatever you want mouse3 to be (mouse3 is click the scrollwheel).

    Simple = good.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    MX700 or MX500, doesn't matter. As far as Simguy's problem is concerned, I find that to be a pretty poor representation of the product, here's why:

    -He faults the mouse his own style of gaming, and mouse movement, that is picking the mouse up and moving to the other side of the pad. Subjective rating.

    -I am the owner of an MX700, and find the mouse to track flawlessly approximately 1/8th of an inch off my standard cloth/rubber mousepad. It does not exhibit jumps or jerks, and is infinitely more accurate than my Intellimouse 3.0.


    For two years I swore by my intellimouse 3. I took it to LAN parties, bought four for all my computers in my house, repaired them just so I could keep the comfortable feel without shelling out extra money. Then I had the courtesy to play with an MX700 for an evening. Triple the optical resolution, and quadruple the sampling rate over the Intellimouse 3. The difference is as dramatic as going from a ball-mouse to an Intellimouse was. The mx700 is that much more superior.

    My photoshop projects found a renewed accuracy. My gaming scores did in fact increase because minute adjustments in aim from long ranges were better received on the MX700. My CAD projects received a renewed sence of control. Even using the mouse on the desktop was a treat to use. It felt more an extension of my own hand than the Intellimouse did.

    Additionally, if you're a gamer, the buttons present on the MX700 (8 programmable) are absolutely priceless to have at one's fingertips. Despite Gobd's statements.

    Sometimes you just run out of keys within a reasonable distance of the home keys in a game, if that's your bag. I did. I also found myself shifting key after key on the keyboard to the mouse as it was far easier to concentrate my dominate hand upon oft-repeated tasks. The programmable buttons on the mouse not only increase productivity in a game, but in an office environment as well. Allowing you to bind several programs or common actions to the keys on the mouse, the mouse acts as a mini control-console for your most common tasks.

    The mouse itself ships with NiMh batteries, which do hold their charge very well. Featuring an average battery life of approximately 72 hours per charge, and a charge time of only a few hours. Set it in the cradle before you go to bed, and you'll never run out of juice. The convenient LED on the top of the mouse begins to blink red when battery is low, blinks green in the cradle to signify charging, and solid green to show full charge. The charger itself is a deep-cell charger, which means that your NiMh batteries get the best possible charge per go. Also, conveniently enough, the charger is infinitely responsive to the special needs of NiMh charging. It stops when the NiMh have 100% charge, most chargers don't.

    Not to say that the Intellimouse 3.0 is a bad mouse, I still have three in my house, it's just objectively inferior to the MX500/700.

    Additionally, if you get the Logitech Duo set you'll receive the aforementioned benefits of the fine MX700 and MX500 with the MX700 and the Logitech Wireless Keyboard. The keyboard is a fine product of engineering, charging the batteries through RF! The cradle, which doubles as the RF station actually charges the keyboard. My logitech wireless keyboard has been operating without fail, approximately 100 hours a week since the middle of July.

    Don't hesitate to pass up on the MX700 + Wireless Keyboard combo if you wish to spend the money. I certainly didn't regret it, and I must say it's a great, faultless joy to work with.
  • GobdGobd Seattle, WA
    edited October 2003
    About running out of keys around you're fingers, if you're T2 player you should know how to fix the problem fairly well. Just move the standard gaming keys over to the right by one, instead of wsad you then use esdf and that makes a lot more keys available to use to the left but it will take a bit to get used to.

    I'll admit it, for most people the extra buttons on the mouse will be usefull but i just hate extra buttons on anything. I just want the simple design that does exactly what it should and no more. Price is also big with me, i can't see paying that much for a mouse when it essentially does the same thing as a 20$ mouse.
  • Mr_BojinglesMr_Bojingles Northern Michigan New
    edited October 2003
    Thrax said
    Additionally, if you're a gamer, the buttons present on the MX700 (8 programmable) are absolutely priceless to have at one's fingertips.


    I second that :thumbsup: ...And all in favor say "I" :D
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    And the MX700 does exactly what it should. Provide more functionality than any other mouse on the market to date. Period.
  • botheredbothered Manchester UK
    edited October 2003
    OK I'm sold it's a mx700 for me but just to clear one thing up, When you say the buttons are programmable, can you set the buttons for any key on the keyboard? I ask because the intellimouse buttons are programmable but not for anything.

    bothered.

    ps, As for extra buttons, I remember my first intellimouse and I thought I wouldn't need five, I use five on many games. The extra three would be nice.
  • leishi85leishi85 Grand Rapids, MI Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    i think u could, i looked into the mouse config thingy, i found a thing to change the button to keystrokes.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    In Windows you can do the programming with the extra buttons on left side of mouse. Without programming anything, stock MX700 drivers, they function as scrolling speed-ups or widnows focus change, and the buttons in front of and behind the scroll wheel (whihc is also clickable as a middle button) send scroll repeats.

    The only thing I can do to make this optical "malf" is to put it so the Logitech logo is upside down and in front of the scroll bar, whereupon it happily moves UP when you move it toward desk edge and vice versa (move normally away from you, it then move cursor DOWN screen.

    I have had it out of charger\transceiver as long as a week, then it wanted an hour's charge before reverting to normal operation. Park it in charger when not in use, it will be happy (the batteries are NiMH and NOT NiCad, they do not develop a charging "memory" as much as the NiCad technology batteries do).

    John, who thinks this mouse is EXCELLENT.
  • NixxerNixxer Nottingham, UK
    edited October 2003
    Everyone asks for a mouse recommendation and its always the MX700 by the majority.

    I've been a happy owner since May and never had a problem. I was a mouse hater, but I thought it was time for a new pointing device, and this was the one I chose.

    The one problem is if you get too used to it then your really foot when using other mice.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Are there any Bluetooth Mice out yet?
    It would save having to plug in their own connector and/or needing a line of sight.

    NS
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    MS has a bluetooth mouse, but in my experience, it's pretty crappy. I don't like it.
  • botheredbothered Manchester UK
    edited October 2003
    Here's a question. I've been reading a few reviews on the MX700 and a few people say they use intellipoint software for it. Would the mouseware software work for the intellipoint?

    bothered.
  • MoTHA_NaTuREMoTHA_NaTuRE All over this bizzatch called FL
    edited October 2003
    im still using my razer boomslang 2000 and loving it, fast and precise is all i care about
  • botheredbothered Manchester UK
    edited October 2003
    Up and running with my new MX700, It'll take a little getting use to but first impressions are Ilike it. It didn't have the keystroke option but the latest mouseware does.
    Thanks for all the help guys.

    bothered, mousing away merrily.
  • TemplarTemplar You first.
    edited October 2003
    Running out of mouse room can be helped two ways.

    The cheapest is upping your sensitivity pretty high. That way, you don't use as much room when you game. The downside is that you can hurt your game while you get used to it.

    The other, which could cost anywhere from $15 to possibly $30, is get a really big mouse pad. I still use the one Alienware gave me with my main box. You can order it off their site, if you can stand the logo :)

    http://www.alienware.com/gearshop_pages/gear_shop.aspx (It's in accessories).

    Here's the people who do it for them: http://www.func.net/

    Best mousepad evar.
  • edited October 2003
    func 1030 is the best.
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