-R is a type of format for both DVD and CD, the data type -R is usually used for Data only, and +R's being use for digital media, like movies and stuff like that. You can sue either or but ti all breaks down to what is compatible with that disc. most DVD player will not support -R disc's.
TBH what I said above really isn't an issue with newer players as everyone is making everything match, but it still is an issue with older hardware.
# CD-R
Compact Disc - Recordable. The specifications for this storage format were released by Sony/Philips in 1988 and offered home users the ability to write their own CD-ROMs. The discs contain a pre-made reflective track that has a layer of dye on top; when hit by a laser pulse of sufficient power, the dye melts away leaving an patch of exposed metal. The data stored on a CD-R is sensitive to light and such discs are not as robust as "proper" permanent CDs.
# CD-ROM
Compact Disc - Read Only Memory. The original CD format was developed and released by Sony/Philips in 1982; the disc comprises of bullet-proof plastic (polycarbonate) with a thin layer of aluminium, topped off with another layer of protective plastic. Embedded into the metal is a single track that spirals from the middle of the disc to the outer edge; along the length of the track there are pits of different lengths. A laser "reads" the pattern of the pits, converting this into a stream of digital data.
The medium was initially used to store music but it soon became obvious that this data could be anything and not just music. A standard CD-ROM stores about 650MB of data, although some manufacturers produce higher capacity discs. These work by having a tighter pitched track (ie. the spiral is more compact).
# CD-RW
Compact Disc - Rewritable. This CD media expands on the CD-R by permitting data to be written, erased and rewritten to the disc many times. It works by having a layer that changes state when heated, which in turn alters its reflectivity. The process of writing data is similar to that with a CD-R.
The laser power is increased in order to heat the layer but instead of melting away, the material changes state (typically by going from a crystalline state into a semi-random arrangement). This change alters the reflectivity of the layer enough to be detected. Erasing the data is a similar process except that the laser power is lower than for writing but it remains on for a long period of time; the layer is heated until it returns to its original state.
# DVD-R
Digital Versatile Disc (Recordable). This is a "record-once" version of the DVD+RW format appeared in 2002 from the development teams of many companies. The format can hold up to 4.7GB per side.
# DVD+R
Digital Versatile Disc (Recordable). This is a "record-once" DVD format first appeared in 1997 by Pioneer and, confusingly, has two versions: authoring and general. The latter is intended for home use so most PC stores will stock this type; the former is supposed to be for professionals - one difference is that it permits double-sided DVD-R discs. The current maximum storage is 4.7GB per side.
# DVD-RAM
Digital Versatile Disc (Random Access Memory). This is a rerecordable DVD format from Pioneer that permits up to 4.7GB per side. Using a different technology to other types of rewritable DVD formats, a DVD-RAM unit will only recognise a DVD-RAM disc - it will not be able to read a DVD-R disc, for example.
# DVD-ROM
The term DVD stands for Digital Versatile Disc, although it originally stood for Digital Video Disc. A DVD-ROM is essentially the same as a CD-ROM - the differences lie in the scale of the data storage medium. The track is much narrow and therefore a greater length can be spiralled around a disc the same size as a standard CD. This results in greater room for data but the associated recording and reading hardware needs to be more refined; for example, the laser operates at a higher frequency.
DVD-ROMs can be dual-sided (i.e. data stored on both sides of the disk) and composed of up to two layers per side, although most DVD-ROMs used for PCs tend to be single layered and single sided. Such discs have a capacity of 4.4GB (more than six times the amount for a CD-ROM); the maximum dual layered/sided discs hold up to 16GB of data.
# DVD+RW
Digital Versatile Disc (Rewritable). This is a rerecordable DVD format from Pioneer that permits up to 4.7GB per side. A modern DVD+RW unit will recognise all formats of DVD discs (apart from DVD-RAM) but it will only rerecord on a DVD+RW disc; they can usually record onto DVD-R discs but it is not always certain.
# DVD-RW
Digital Versatile Disc (Rewritable). This is a rerecordable DVD format from a group of developers that permits up to 4.7GB per side. A modern DVD-RW unit will recognise all formats of DVD discs (apart from DVD-RAM) but it will only rerecord on a DVD-RW disc; they can usually record onto DVD+R discs but it is not always certain.
Needless to say, my excitement grows exponentially as I get closer to being able to afford it. Just imagine my excitement levels after that, but before it ships.
Is there any utility to make the fans run at a constant speed. Sometimes while playing games I reach a point where it must at a certain degree so it switches back and forth between a one speed and another. I just want it to run at a constant max speed.
I have a couple hardware questions about the dv8000t, and one question about Windows.
I'll be running Linux on the dv8000t exclusively, but HP's warranty is sketchy with installing other OSs, so my solution is to replace the HD it comes with immediately. That way if I ever need to send it in, I'll just place the original HD (with the original XP install) in the machine to send it to them.
3. I've used Windows very minimally, and never owned a windows PC before. Is it possible to boot from an XP partition on an external USB drive? I know you can with Linux and also OS X, but I don't have much experience with Windows. The reason I ask is that, if the answer is yes, I'll get an external HD case for the original HP HD that ships with the machine. That way I can keep it with me and boot into Windows if I ever need to. Here's a 2.5" external enclosure with an internal SATA interface and an external USB interface. Will it work? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817362001
Thanks so much for any help! I'm really excited about my dv8000t. Purchasing it with the lowest amount of ram and the smallest HD will bring the price down a lot, as these components cost less from newegg. Yay!
The fan has no sped control you can control, TBH mine never really turns on unless I am in some major hardcore gaming sessions... the laptop runs pretty cool...
sledge, remember that we replaced the stock thermal compound on yours with OCZ silver 5. When my wife's dell inspiron had the factory thermal pad on there, the fan ran loudly and consistently, but when I replaced it with AS5, the fan barely ever came on.
Entensity, you may benefit greatly from reduced fan noise if you replace the factory thermal pad with some good silver thermal compound.
well prime I am talking before that also. TBH I never knew when the fan was on or off. But that artic silver did drop the CPU temps 4C.. not much but anything cooler is always better.
I have a couple hardware questions about the dv8000t, and one question about Windows.
I'll be running Linux on the dv8000t exclusively, but HP's warranty is sketchy with installing other OSs, so my solution is to replace the HD it comes with immediately. That way if I ever need to send it in, I'll just place the original HD (with the original XP install) in the machine to send it to them.
3. I've used Windows very minimally, and never owned a windows PC before. Is it possible to boot from an XP partition on an external USB drive? I know you can with Linux and also OS X, but I don't have much experience with Windows. The reason I ask is that, if the answer is yes, I'll get an external HD case for the original HP HD that ships with the machine. That way I can keep it with me and boot into Windows if I ever need to. Here's a 2.5" external enclosure with an internal SATA interface and an external USB interface. Will it work? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817362001
Thanks so much for any help! I'm really excited about my dv8000t. Purchasing it with the lowest amount of ram and the smallest HD will bring the price down a lot, as these components cost less from newegg. Yay!
I'd recommend getting a 7200RPM hard drive for the notebook. 5400RPM is OK, but if it's an upgrade, I would never go less than 7200RPM. The hard drive has the largest impact on typical performance of any component in a notebook - or, should I say, a slow HDD is the biggest bottleneck.
I'm pretty sure that this notebook has dual hard-drive slots - so you could put your Windows HDD in the second slot, and dual boot with GRUB or some other bootloader. I'm pretty sure that you could boot from an external enclosure if your BIOS supports it, but it would perform better with the HDD mounted internally.
-R is a type of format for both DVD and CD, the data type -R is usually used for Data only, and +R's being use for digital media, like movies and stuff like that. You can sue either or but ti all breaks down to what is compatible with that disc. most DVD player will not support -R disc's.
TBH what I said above really isn't an issue with newer players as everyone is making everything match, but it still is an issue with older hardware.
That's not true at all. -R is more compatible with set top DVD players than any other format.
I'd recommend getting a 7200RPM hard drive for the notebook. 5400RPM is OK, but if it's an upgrade, I would never go less than 7200RPM. The hard drive has the largest impact on typical performance of any component in a notebook - or, should I say, a slow HDD is the biggest bottleneck.
I'm pretty sure that this notebook has dual hard-drive slots - so you could put your Windows HDD in the second slot, and dual boot with GRUB or some other bootloader. I'm pretty sure that you could boot from an external enclosure if your BIOS supports it, but it would perform better with the HDD mounted internally.
Yes, it does have 2 HD slots. But, one of the points of this laptop is to get away from dual-booting. I dual-boot on my desktop, and I'm tired of it. Windows in only on my desktop because my girlfriend insists that if we can run it, we should just in case we need it (we both have Macs aside from the dual-boot system). As a side not here, she was right to insist this. We both took an online course at our university this summer which was taught through WMV videos. For some reason neither mplayer nor Windows Media Player for Mac would play them (first time I ever ran across this). So, they are the only thing we ever boot into Windows for.
I think you're right about the 7200 RPM drive. I'll get one of those instead. But, my questions were whether those linked-to components would work with this machine. Will they (assuming I get a 2.5" SATA 7200RPM drive)?
@sledgehammer - does the dv8000t's BIOS support booting from a usb device?
I haven't tried.... but make sure to order 2 drives with the laptop as if you buy only one hd... hp will only send 1 bracket... they will not add the 2nd bracket... and it is a pain to get them to send you one... as it is not in there part catalog as it comes attached with the hd's.
I haven't tried.... but make sure to order 2 drives with the laptop as if you buy only one hd... hp will only send 1 bracket... they will not add the 2nd bracket... and it is a pain to get them to send you one... as it is not in there part catalog as it comes attached with the hd's.
Yeah, I've seen the threads where that is discussed. One of the reasons That I'm getting a drive from Newegg, though, is that it's cheaper than the drive options from HP. I only want one drive in the machine. I simply don't have the money to choose one of the dual-drive options from HP. Also, I like the idea of having a 7200RPM drive. The only 7200RPM drive offered from HP as an option is a single drive anyway, not a dual-drive setup.
The laptop will not be my main machine anyway, just a portable toy for school. I have almost a TB of combined space on my desktops, so I won't need gobs of space on the laptop. But, I figure if I'm going to pop out the original drive with XP on it, why not stick it in an external enclosure so I can use and access it if I ever want to.
Anyway, I have very minimal knowledge of Laptop hardware, so I'm going to ask again:
2. Will this ram fit the dv8000t? If so, I'm definitely getting a couple 1GB sticks.
Sorry to ask such simple questions. I just can't find detail system specifications on the dv8000t, and I haven't dealt with laptop hardware before. I don't know if it's as diverse as desktop hardware.
-R is more compatible with set top DVD players than any other format.
Absolutely agree. It's the only DVD media we recommend using in my college's digital media labs. (Sorry for the tangential comment, but I thought that was important)
After a few days of anticipation, my dv8000t came in yesturday!! It traveled from China to Alaska to Indianapolis to Newark to Budd Lake then to my house in less than 24hrs. I was very pleased with Hp's service, and the laptop arrived without any problems.
When I first turned it on I was blown away by the clarity of the screen. I definitely recommend the 1680x1050 screen. The color contrast seems superb, even under a blacklight (I have one in my room). I love the Duo processor, as I could easily defrag and copy a CD at the same time with no signs of slowing down. The Media Center is a great upgrade for those of you with a large collection of music and who like to DJ. It's fairly simple to copy CDs and create albums to keep your collection organized. I was also very pleased to see the battery fully charged right out of the box.
The only thing I found troubling was the headphone jack, as it doesnt seat correctly when headphoes or speakers are plugged in. Is there an adapter needed for such devices to work? I would love to hook up my JBL speakers, as the stock speakers seem insuficient, especially when composing music. If Sledgehammer or anyone else knows how to solve this, please let me know. Other than this minor setback I am very pleased with my dv8000t and would definitely recommend this laptop :bigggrin: .
I was reading a review of the dv8000z at Mobilityguru.com and I ran across this: http://www.mobilityguru.com/2006/01/11/hp_pavilion_dv8000z_is_big_heavy_and_full_of_features/page17.html.
It says, "An audio codec from Conexant handles sound delivery for this notebook, which can also deliver 7.1 multi-channel audio through the headphone jack; optical output requires a special adapter for digital SPDIF delivery." I just bought my dv8000t and I'm waiting for delivery, so until then I was wondering, does the dv8000t really support multi-channel audio through the headphone jack? Such a thing seems a bit weird and after searching around for adapters (as I have a 5.1 channel speaker system) I wasn't able to find anything that would take a single 3.5mm jack and turn it into 3 3.5mm jacks or something similar for a speaker system like the Logitech X-530. Have you guys played around with multi-channel sound on your laptops?
Also, I was wondering how fast you guys got your laptops after they shipped if you used standard delivery. Did it take 5-7 days?
I bougth a single HD dv8000 and was looking to add another for storage...can someone provide a link to a decently priced HD that will work?
If you did not order a dv8000t with dual drives, you will be missing an essential mounting bracket for the second drive bay. It is only included when you order the machine with dual drives. Also, the part is not listed on any USA HP part lists. So, you may not be able to order it. If you get the drive from HP, they will provide the bracket with it (if you request it), but you will then be getting a drive that is probably three times more expensive than if you'd gotten it anywhere else.
I posted this many of times above. If you buy only 1 Hard drive they wont include the 2nd support bracket... They do sell the bracket now but it isn't going to be easy to find or get, might want to call them and ask for managment right away....
Also, I was wondering how fast you guys got your laptops after they shipped if you used standard delivery. Did it take 5-7 days?
I ordered mine online on July 18th. It was assembled by the 26th, and shipped from Shanghai China to my house in New Jersey in under 24hrs. I paid for the standard 5-7 day shipping as well.
As for my previous comment about the headphone jack, I take it back. Apparently when I tried plugging in my speakers I didnt push it in all the way. When you do they sound amazing! Silly me.
It seems to be, ever since 2003. http://www.computeruser.com/news/03/01/29/news5.html states that China is the largest and fastest-growing Linux market in the Asia-Pacific excluding Japan, and they also have a software development and support center in Shanghai. By now they must have a massive establishment there with almost all their shipments coming out of Shanghai.
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TBH what I said above really isn't an issue with newer players as everyone is making everything match, but it still is an issue with older hardware.
# CD-R
Compact Disc - Recordable. The specifications for this storage format were released by Sony/Philips in 1988 and offered home users the ability to write their own CD-ROMs. The discs contain a pre-made reflective track that has a layer of dye on top; when hit by a laser pulse of sufficient power, the dye melts away leaving an patch of exposed metal. The data stored on a CD-R is sensitive to light and such discs are not as robust as "proper" permanent CDs.
# CD-ROM
Compact Disc - Read Only Memory. The original CD format was developed and released by Sony/Philips in 1982; the disc comprises of bullet-proof plastic (polycarbonate) with a thin layer of aluminium, topped off with another layer of protective plastic. Embedded into the metal is a single track that spirals from the middle of the disc to the outer edge; along the length of the track there are pits of different lengths. A laser "reads" the pattern of the pits, converting this into a stream of digital data.
The medium was initially used to store music but it soon became obvious that this data could be anything and not just music. A standard CD-ROM stores about 650MB of data, although some manufacturers produce higher capacity discs. These work by having a tighter pitched track (ie. the spiral is more compact).
# CD-RW
Compact Disc - Rewritable. This CD media expands on the CD-R by permitting data to be written, erased and rewritten to the disc many times. It works by having a layer that changes state when heated, which in turn alters its reflectivity. The process of writing data is similar to that with a CD-R.
The laser power is increased in order to heat the layer but instead of melting away, the material changes state (typically by going from a crystalline state into a semi-random arrangement). This change alters the reflectivity of the layer enough to be detected. Erasing the data is a similar process except that the laser power is lower than for writing but it remains on for a long period of time; the layer is heated until it returns to its original state.
# DVD-R
Digital Versatile Disc (Recordable). This is a "record-once" version of the DVD+RW format appeared in 2002 from the development teams of many companies. The format can hold up to 4.7GB per side.
# DVD+R
Digital Versatile Disc (Recordable). This is a "record-once" DVD format first appeared in 1997 by Pioneer and, confusingly, has two versions: authoring and general. The latter is intended for home use so most PC stores will stock this type; the former is supposed to be for professionals - one difference is that it permits double-sided DVD-R discs. The current maximum storage is 4.7GB per side.
# DVD-RAM
Digital Versatile Disc (Random Access Memory). This is a rerecordable DVD format from Pioneer that permits up to 4.7GB per side. Using a different technology to other types of rewritable DVD formats, a DVD-RAM unit will only recognise a DVD-RAM disc - it will not be able to read a DVD-R disc, for example.
# DVD-ROM
The term DVD stands for Digital Versatile Disc, although it originally stood for Digital Video Disc. A DVD-ROM is essentially the same as a CD-ROM - the differences lie in the scale of the data storage medium. The track is much narrow and therefore a greater length can be spiralled around a disc the same size as a standard CD. This results in greater room for data but the associated recording and reading hardware needs to be more refined; for example, the laser operates at a higher frequency.
DVD-ROMs can be dual-sided (i.e. data stored on both sides of the disk) and composed of up to two layers per side, although most DVD-ROMs used for PCs tend to be single layered and single sided. Such discs have a capacity of 4.4GB (more than six times the amount for a CD-ROM); the maximum dual layered/sided discs hold up to 16GB of data.
# DVD+RW
Digital Versatile Disc (Rewritable). This is a rerecordable DVD format from Pioneer that permits up to 4.7GB per side. A modern DVD+RW unit will recognise all formats of DVD discs (apart from DVD-RAM) but it will only rerecord on a DVD+RW disc; they can usually record onto DVD-R discs but it is not always certain.
# DVD-RW
Digital Versatile Disc (Rewritable). This is a rerecordable DVD format from a group of developers that permits up to 4.7GB per side. A modern DVD-RW unit will recognise all formats of DVD discs (apart from DVD-RAM) but it will only rerecord on a DVD-RW disc; they can usually record onto DVD+R discs but it is not always certain.
Needless to say, my excitement grows exponentially as I get closer to being able to afford it. Just imagine my excitement levels after that, but before it ships.
I'll be running Linux on the dv8000t exclusively, but HP's warranty is sketchy with installing other OSs, so my solution is to replace the HD it comes with immediately. That way if I ever need to send it in, I'll just place the original HD (with the original XP install) in the machine to send it to them.
1. I would like to know what hard drives I can get to fit this machine, though. Will the following one work? It's a 2.5" 5400RPM SATA drive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822146051
2. This ram looks very nice, and has a 5/5 rating. Will it fit the dv8000t? If so, I'm definitely getting a couple 1GB sticks.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820227099
3. I've used Windows very minimally, and never owned a windows PC before. Is it possible to boot from an XP partition on an external USB drive? I know you can with Linux and also OS X, but I don't have much experience with Windows. The reason I ask is that, if the answer is yes, I'll get an external HD case for the original HP HD that ships with the machine. That way I can keep it with me and boot into Windows if I ever need to. Here's a 2.5" external enclosure with an internal SATA interface and an external USB interface. Will it work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817362001
Thanks so much for any help! I'm really excited about my dv8000t. Purchasing it with the lowest amount of ram and the smallest HD will bring the price down a lot, as these components cost less from newegg. Yay!
Entensity, you may benefit greatly from reduced fan noise if you replace the factory thermal pad with some good silver thermal compound.
Getting to the CPU is no small task as seen here.
hehe
I'd recommend getting a 7200RPM hard drive for the notebook. 5400RPM is OK, but if it's an upgrade, I would never go less than 7200RPM. The hard drive has the largest impact on typical performance of any component in a notebook - or, should I say, a slow HDD is the biggest bottleneck.
I'm pretty sure that this notebook has dual hard-drive slots - so you could put your Windows HDD in the second slot, and dual boot with GRUB or some other bootloader. I'm pretty sure that you could boot from an external enclosure if your BIOS supports it, but it would perform better with the HDD mounted internally.
That's not true at all. -R is more compatible with set top DVD players than any other format.
Yes, it does have 2 HD slots. But, one of the points of this laptop is to get away from dual-booting. I dual-boot on my desktop, and I'm tired of it. Windows in only on my desktop because my girlfriend insists that if we can run it, we should just in case we need it (we both have Macs aside from the dual-boot system). As a side not here, she was right to insist this. We both took an online course at our university this summer which was taught through WMV videos. For some reason neither mplayer nor Windows Media Player for Mac would play them (first time I ever ran across this). So, they are the only thing we ever boot into Windows for.
I think you're right about the 7200 RPM drive. I'll get one of those instead. But, my questions were whether those linked-to components would work with this machine. Will they (assuming I get a 2.5" SATA 7200RPM drive)?
@sledgehammer - does the dv8000t's BIOS support booting from a usb device?
Yeah, I've seen the threads where that is discussed. One of the reasons That I'm getting a drive from Newegg, though, is that it's cheaper than the drive options from HP. I only want one drive in the machine. I simply don't have the money to choose one of the dual-drive options from HP. Also, I like the idea of having a 7200RPM drive. The only 7200RPM drive offered from HP as an option is a single drive anyway, not a dual-drive setup.
The laptop will not be my main machine anyway, just a portable toy for school. I have almost a TB of combined space on my desktops, so I won't need gobs of space on the laptop. But, I figure if I'm going to pop out the original drive with XP on it, why not stick it in an external enclosure so I can use and access it if I ever want to.
Anyway, I have very minimal knowledge of Laptop hardware, so I'm going to ask again:
1. Will this drive fit the dv8000t?
2. Will this ram fit the dv8000t? If so, I'm definitely getting a couple 1GB sticks.
Sorry to ask such simple questions. I just can't find detail system specifications on the dv8000t, and I haven't dealt with laptop hardware before. I don't know if it's as diverse as desktop hardware.
Again, thanks for all help!
I want it to run at a constant speed.
When I first turned it on I was blown away by the clarity of the screen. I definitely recommend the 1680x1050 screen. The color contrast seems superb, even under a blacklight (I have one in my room). I love the Duo processor, as I could easily defrag and copy a CD at the same time with no signs of slowing down. The Media Center is a great upgrade for those of you with a large collection of music and who like to DJ. It's fairly simple to copy CDs and create albums to keep your collection organized. I was also very pleased to see the battery fully charged right out of the box.
The only thing I found troubling was the headphone jack, as it doesnt seat correctly when headphoes or speakers are plugged in. Is there an adapter needed for such devices to work? I would love to hook up my JBL speakers, as the stock speakers seem insuficient, especially when composing music. If Sledgehammer or anyone else knows how to solve this, please let me know. Other than this minor setback I am very pleased with my dv8000t and would definitely recommend this laptop :bigggrin: .
It says, "An audio codec from Conexant handles sound delivery for this notebook, which can also deliver 7.1 multi-channel audio through the headphone jack; optical output requires a special adapter for digital SPDIF delivery." I just bought my dv8000t and I'm waiting for delivery, so until then I was wondering, does the dv8000t really support multi-channel audio through the headphone jack? Such a thing seems a bit weird and after searching around for adapters (as I have a 5.1 channel speaker system) I wasn't able to find anything that would take a single 3.5mm jack and turn it into 3 3.5mm jacks or something similar for a speaker system like the Logitech X-530. Have you guys played around with multi-channel sound on your laptops?
Also, I was wondering how fast you guys got your laptops after they shipped if you used standard delivery. Did it take 5-7 days?
Sorry!
I ordered mine online on July 18th. It was assembled by the 26th, and shipped from Shanghai China to my house in New Jersey in under 24hrs. I paid for the standard 5-7 day shipping as well.
As for my previous comment about the headphone jack, I take it back. Apparently when I tried plugging in my speakers I didnt push it in all the way. When you do they sound amazing! Silly me.