Cut/Blow L11 bridges

a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
edited October 2003 in Hardware
What's the best way to cut or blow the L11 bridges?

I have the new Athlon packaging (the one w/ the shiny coating where the traces are visible). I need to cut the L11 bridges to mod the VCore w/ the wire trick. Also, do I need to cut the L3 bridges to do the wire trick to mod the multiplier or should I leave them connected? (One is already laser cut by AMD actually.)

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  • ShortyShorty Manchester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Point this thread towards Mud & Omega, those guys have done alot with it.. send them a PM if they don't see it :)

    I can't help, I can just about overclock as it is :bawling:
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Wire multiplier mod is an alternate method of manipulating the L3s. You can leave those be. :)

    I suggest doing the l12 mod to make your memory bandwidth potentially out of this world. If you're on an nForce2, or plan to be, modding a 166FSB chip to 133FSB default, or a 133FSB chip to 166FSB default, the difference in maximum FSB frequency is insane. 20-30MHz.

    As far as the L11 is concerned, it's really too bad that no one has a wiremod for the L11 yet (As far as I know). The best you can do is very very gently scrape the coating away from the L11 bridges and then start blowing them as per Omega's Dual Barton guide.
  • lsevaldlsevald Norway Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/pinmod/amd_pinmod.html

    But I believe you have to blow all the L11 bridges to gain complete control over the default Vcore via the pins :(
  • edited October 2003
    Thrax, ocinside.de has a pin mod guide to the L11 vcore bridges on their socket view. As far as the pin mod guide goes, I haven't ever done the mod that way, but I don't see how it can diconnect a connected bridge on the proc. If you have a proc with an 11 multi like a Barton 2500 or 3200 or Tbred 1700, I don't see how dropping wires in the socket holes will disconnect the various L3 bridges that need to be disconnected for a different multi. I'm not being a smartass here, please enlighten me on how the pin mod disconnects the connected bridges.:)

    I haven't tried remapping a new model Barton yet but I don't see how my method of blowing the connected bridges won't work. Even though they've put a heavy lamination of plastic or whatever over the top of the whole opga package on the new procs, the needles I use to blow bridges should still penetrate through the plastic covering to the little gold dots.
  • edited October 2003
    The best way to control the vcore is to hard code a 1.85v vcore on the proc because that setting has all the L11 bridges connected. You can just do the wire mod in the socket to 1.85v and then set your desired vcore in the bios. This has another benefit with heavily overclocked procs in that the mobo is giving a high vcore during the part of the bootup before the bios is initialized and might be just the extra boost you need to get reliable bootups. It's only a few seconds that the 1.85 vcore setting will take place before the bios setting is applied, so this shouldn't hurt the proc a bit.

    I had to do much the same mod with the mobo on my P3S rig for more reliable bootups while heavily overclocked.:)
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited October 2003
    I haven't actually booted the mobo due to lack of time but it's an ECS K7VTA3 v5.0 (KT333) so I'm almost positive it has no BIOS options for VCore. I could be mistaken, but I don't think I am. I've googled for this board and one thing that is retarded is that there are so many versions of it and some of those versions are for the KT266 chipset. Go figure.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    I tried looking last night and found all the different versions while looking for a manual at http://www.ecsusa.com/ and was just baffled with all the revisions. Tex always swears by OCworkbench when it comes to anything ECS. You will need to poke around a lot as some of their stuff is archived.

    The best method of blowing the bridges I have heard of so far is to very carefully scrape the surface of each contact end of each bridge you are going to blow to remove the protective coating and use 5V leads from a PSU attaced to each end. It will only take a touch of the leads to do it.
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited October 2003
    Tex is correct about ECS and OCWorkbench. OCWorkbench was the first place to come to mind when looking for O/C guide or modded BIOS stuff. They had a little info on the board, but nothing about O/C'ing or modded BIOS.

    The revisions are plentiful to say the least, but what I found so retarded was the they had so many revisions and then switched chipsets. Earth to ECS, perhaps it's time the change the mobo name when the chipset is changed?
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    The revisions are plentiful to say the least, but what I found so retarded was the they had so many revisions and then switched chipsets. Earth to ECS, perhaps it's time the change the mobo name when the chipset is changed?

    Oh God yes!

    That is just ludicus to say the least. You would think it would at least be in their interst sales wise to re-name it. But then again it was a low-end board as they even had another VIA board that had an OC'ers bios and all. Go figure. :crazy:
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