Between the 7600go and the 6800GT which performs better than the other? Ive always been told PCI express is better than AGP. Does the 7600go perform on par, better than, or worse than the 6800gt?
Between the 7600go and the 6800GT which performs better than the other? Ive always been told PCI express is better than AGP. Does the 7600go perform on par, better than, or worse than the 6800gt?
I hope you know you are comparing a mobile GPU (7600GO) based solution with a desktop one (6800GT). Despite, what you have heard, PCIe is IN NO WAY better than AGP other than the fact GPU manufacturers have decided to cut support for AGP 8x. As a matter of fact, if GPU companies decide to port an ATi Radeon X1950XTX it would hardly utilize AGP's bandwidth ceiling. And then of course theres the issue of SLi, which stands on its own about thermal issues, power consumption and noise. Sad to say, on the contrary, SLi solutions lack PCI slots, which negates the factor of having an enthusiast board in the first place. Sound card and add on boards are difficult to install into an SLi system where GPU and their honkin' fans eat up much of the space initally reserved for PCi on an SLi solution. That is why i still use AGP. I do prefer my PCi add-on boards
To answer your question more discreetly, the latter:
GeForce 6800 GT was made in may 2004, based on the NV40 chipset, built on the 130nm process, originally AGP 8X, 256MB RAM, Core clock of: 350 Memory Clock of: 1GHz, Pipes16x1TMUx6VPU a Fillrate of 5600 MT/s 32.0GB/s bandwidth, GDDR3 256 bit interface, DX9.0c, PS 2.0 & Transparency Anti-Aliasing (FW 91.47+), OpenEXR HDR
GeForce Go 7600 was made in Mar 2006 based on the G73M chipset, 90nm process, PCI-Express x16 bus, 256/512RAM, Core clock of: 450MHz, Memory Clock of 800MHz, Pipes8x1TMUx5VPU a Fillrate of 3600MT/s, 12.8GB/s bandwith on a GDDR3 128 bit interface, DX9.0c, PS2.0 via Scalable Link Interface (SLi), Transparency Anti-Aliasing.
Clearly the Desktop solution wins out here. Both cards support shader model 2.0, but the desktop 6800GT has a 256-bit wide memory interface on its GDDR3, leading to almost twice the fillrate, on top of that a higher clock on its onboard RAM, as for the GPU itself, it has double the pipes of the 7600go. Not only that, the desktop is an AGP based solution. w007!
Yes I knew I was comparing a desktop card to a mobile card. I just have always been told pci express was better and that the ATI X1600 was a great card but that the 7600go was on par wiht it too. There again though I also figured my new tech of the 7600go 512meg card out did my old 6800gt 256meg. Guess I was wrong in assuming I had something better in my laptop than I did in my desktop. Not that I had a lot of choice lol
//edit these numbers were based on a 6600GT and I didn't see that info until after I made this post....
I would say the [strike]7600go[/strike] 6800GT will be the better part between the 2. It really depends on what 6800GT you are talking about and same with the 7600...
6800GT 128mb or 256MB
7600Go 256mb or 512MB
6800GT
Graphics Bus: AGP Memory Interface: 256-bit Memory Bandwidth: 32.0 GB/sec. Fill Rate (texels/sec.): 6.0 billion Vertices per Second: 580 million Memory Data Rate: 1000 MHz Pixels per Clock (peak): 16 RAMDACs: 400 MHz
7600Go
Graphics Bus: PCI Express Memory Interface: 128bit Memory Bandwidth: 19.2 GB/sec. Fill Rate (texels/sec.): 6.0 billion Vertices per Second: 610 million Memory Data Rate: 800 MHz Pixels per Clock (peak): 8/10 RAMDACs: 400 MHz
I hope you know you are comparing a mobile GPU (7600GO) based solution with a desktop one (6800GT). Despite, what you have heard, PCIe is IN NO WAY better than AGP other than the fact GPU manufacturers have decided to cut support for AGP 8x. As a matter of fact, if GPU companies decide to port an ATi Radeon X1950XTX it would hardly utilize AGP's bandwidth ceiling. And then of course theres the issue of SLi, which stands on its own about thermal issues, power consumption and noise. Sad to say, on the contrary, SLi solutions lack PCI slots, which negates the factor of having an enthusiast board in the first place. Sound card and add on boards are difficult to install into an SLi system where GPU and their honkin' fans eat up much of the space initally reserved for PCi on an SLi solution. That is why i still use AGP. I do prefer my PCi add-on boards
To answer your question more discreetly, the latter:
GeForce 6800 GT was made in may 2004, based on the NV40 chipset, built on the 130nm process, originally AGP 8X, 256MB RAM, Core clock of: 350 Memory Clock of: 1GHz, Pipes16x1TMUx6VPU a Fillrate of 5600 MT/s 32.0GB/s bandwidth, GDDR3 256 bit interface, DX9.0c, PS 2.0 & Transparency Anti-Aliasing (FW 91.47+), OpenEXR HDR
GeForce Go 7600 was made in Mar 2006 based on the G73M chipset, 90nm process, PCI-Express x16 bus, 256/512RAM, Core clock of: 450MHz, Memory Clock of 800MHz, Pipes8x1TMUx5VPU a Fillrate of 3600MT/s, 12.8GB/s bandwith on a GDDR3 128 bit interface, DX9.0c, PS2.0 via Scalable Link Interface (SLi), Transparency Anti-Aliasing.
Clearly the Desktop solution wins out here. Both cards support shader model 2.0, but the desktop 6800GT has a 256-bit wide memory interface on its GDDR3, leading to almost twice the fillrate, on top of that a higher clock on its onboard RAM, as for the GPU itself, it has double the pipes of the 7600go. Not only that, the desktop is an AGP based solution. w007!
Hope this answers your question thoroughly.
-isiea
[strike]Not to sure where you got this info at but the above info I provided is based on Nvidias official site....[/strike]
I realized the numbers I was looking at were numbers for the 6600GT, you info was correct...
There is a PCIe of the 6800GT. The only difference listed is the 6800GT of PCIe is NV45 chip. Furthermore, both are GDDR3, yet the 6800GT has a wider bit with on its mem AND a 200MHz higher clock. How is more fillrate possible? On top of that according to my wikipedia source, the desktop AGP has double the pipes of the 7600 whereas the only difference for the 7600 is 100mhz extra core clock.
Thanks there Sledge. I quoted ya to the guy that was telling me I had a midrage card that did not outperform my old 6800gt. Now if I could only get that issue fixed of the DX out of memory errors and the thread stuck in device I mentioned in a different thread Id be golden lol.
Byrds6 I think I was a bit off in my overview..... and I was wrong
As I just realized the numbers I was quoting are from a 6600GT.. I noticed this after my response... on paper the 6800GT looks to be the better card...
It out paces the 7600 by about 30% over all, the only area it lacks is the core speed, but it makes up for that with its 16 Pixel Pipes over the 7600's 8 pipes, also the memory interface is only 128bit on the 7600 which cripples it over all vs. the 6800GT's 256bit interface.
[strike]yeah sledge i was a bit thrown off there by you i was about to reply, that wikipedia is as well known source of reliable unbiased information just as well credited by competing encyclopaedias such as britannica as well.
i was also going to say that how does an 8 pipe card, and a 128 bit mem interface compete with a desktop agp with double the pipes and double the mem bandwidth lol lmfao..surely 100mhz core clock ain't gonna make out the agp with double the power with only half the pipes.[/strike]
anyways. thanks all for your short participation. i enjoyed our little short discussion for short-time here at short-media, cheers!
To note PCI-E versions do seem to run a bit faster in most results. I have a 7800GT and a few 7800GS which are the same card for the most part besides one being AGP and the other being PCI-E.. and the PCI-E card is faster overall.
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I hope you know you are comparing a mobile GPU (7600GO) based solution with a desktop one (6800GT). Despite, what you have heard, PCIe is IN NO WAY better than AGP other than the fact GPU manufacturers have decided to cut support for AGP 8x. As a matter of fact, if GPU companies decide to port an ATi Radeon X1950XTX it would hardly utilize AGP's bandwidth ceiling. And then of course theres the issue of SLi, which stands on its own about thermal issues, power consumption and noise. Sad to say, on the contrary, SLi solutions lack PCI slots, which negates the factor of having an enthusiast board in the first place. Sound card and add on boards are difficult to install into an SLi system where GPU and their honkin' fans eat up much of the space initally reserved for PCi on an SLi solution. That is why i still use AGP. I do prefer my PCi add-on boards
To answer your question more discreetly, the latter:
GeForce 6800 GT was made in may 2004, based on the NV40 chipset, built on the 130nm process, originally AGP 8X, 256MB RAM, Core clock of: 350 Memory Clock of: 1GHz, Pipes16x1TMUx6VPU a Fillrate of 5600 MT/s 32.0GB/s bandwidth, GDDR3 256 bit interface, DX9.0c, PS 2.0 & Transparency Anti-Aliasing (FW 91.47+), OpenEXR HDR
GeForce Go 7600 was made in Mar 2006 based on the G73M chipset, 90nm process, PCI-Express x16 bus, 256/512RAM, Core clock of: 450MHz, Memory Clock of 800MHz, Pipes8x1TMUx5VPU a Fillrate of 3600MT/s, 12.8GB/s bandwith on a GDDR3 128 bit interface, DX9.0c, PS2.0 via Scalable Link Interface (SLi), Transparency Anti-Aliasing.
Clearly the Desktop solution wins out here. Both cards support shader model 2.0, but the desktop 6800GT has a 256-bit wide memory interface on its GDDR3, leading to almost twice the fillrate, on top of that a higher clock on its onboard RAM, as for the GPU itself, it has double the pipes of the 7600go. Not only that, the desktop is an AGP based solution. w007!
Hope this answers your question thoroughly.
-isiea
I would say the [strike]7600go[/strike] 6800GT will be the better part between the 2. It really depends on what 6800GT you are talking about and same with the 7600...
6800GT 128mb or 256MB
7600Go 256mb or 512MB
6800GT
Graphics Bus: AGP
Memory Interface: 256-bit
Memory Bandwidth: 32.0 GB/sec.
Fill Rate (texels/sec.): 6.0 billion
Vertices per Second: 580 million
Memory Data Rate: 1000 MHz
Pixels per Clock (peak): 16
RAMDACs: 400 MHz
7600Go
Graphics Bus: PCI Express
Memory Interface: 128bit
Memory Bandwidth: 19.2 GB/sec.
Fill Rate (texels/sec.): 6.0 billion
Vertices per Second: 610 million
Memory Data Rate: 800 MHz
Pixels per Clock (peak): 8/10
RAMDACs: 400 MHz
[strike]Not to sure where you got this info at but the above info I provided is based on Nvidias official site....[/strike]
I realized the numbers I was looking at were numbers for the 6600GT, you info was correct...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_NVIDIA_Graphics_Processing_Units
There is a PCIe of the 6800GT. The only difference listed is the 6800GT of PCIe is NV45 chip. Furthermore, both are GDDR3, yet the 6800GT has a wider bit with on its mem AND a 200MHz higher clock. How is more fillrate possible? On top of that according to my wikipedia source, the desktop AGP has double the pipes of the 7600 whereas the only difference for the 7600 is 100mhz extra core clock.
So Sledge you think the 7600go 512meg card is better than the 6800gt?
As I just realized the numbers I was quoting are from a 6600GT.. I noticed this after my response... on paper the 6800GT looks to be the better card...
It out paces the 7600 by about 30% over all, the only area it lacks is the core speed, but it makes up for that with its 16 Pixel Pipes over the 7600's 8 pipes, also the memory interface is only 128bit on the 7600 which cripples it over all vs. the 6800GT's 256bit interface.
i was also going to say that how does an 8 pipe card, and a 128 bit mem interface compete with a desktop agp with double the pipes and double the mem bandwidth lol lmfao..surely 100mhz core clock ain't gonna make out the agp with double the power with only half the pipes.[/strike]
anyways. thanks all for your short participation. i enjoyed our little short discussion for short-time here at short-media, cheers!