xp and a dodgy dvd drive!

osaddictosaddict London, UK
edited December 2006 in Science & Tech
Hey all,

I have a strange situation..... I burn a data dvd, full of mp3's pictures etc, just loads of files...

The disk works fine in a dvd player (one which plays mp3's, divx etc)

However, if I put it back in to my pc - it refuses to see it - in either the dvd drive or the dvd rw drive.

This appears to be the case for the majority of burnt dvd's regardless of media

I am pretty sure its going to be some iffy setting in xp, or something odd thats causing it rather than a hardware issue...

Any ideas?

Comments

  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited November 2006
    Has the disc been "closed" or "finalized"?
  • osaddictosaddict London, UK
    edited November 2006
    Hi prof, yes, the disks I have been trying are always finalized when I burn them (there nearly always 95% full anyway, so I do it pretty much every time)
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited November 2006
    I'm wondering if this might be an issue of compatibility between a drive and the media. Some drives don't like some discs. This site examines the quality of CD-R media and points out differences in quality. I'm sure the same holds true for DVD's.
  • osaddictosaddict London, UK
    edited November 2006
    Yes, but surely the very same drive that wrote the media should be able to read from the same disk, 1 day later!?
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited November 2006
    osaddict wrote:
    Yes, but surely the very same drive that wrote the media should be able to read from the same disk, 1 day later!?
    I would think so, but nothing like that would surprise me a whole lot.

    Have you tried reinstalling and/or updating your burner software? You might also try a free burner program to see if the software makes a difference in the result.
  • osaddictosaddict London, UK
    edited November 2006
    Hey prof,

    Yeah, I tried a free burning app- xp cd burner pro, still the same situation.

    Curiously enough- this has a finalise option, which i use, however, in nero the finalise option is always greyed out!

    (My motivation for getting the xp cd burner pro installed in the first place)

    Perhaps thats somehow connected...

    However, even if the discs were not finalised- the same burner that burnt them should be able to detect them shouldnt it!

    Would it be worth trying to upgrade the firmware for the dvd burner?
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited November 2006
    osaddict wrote:
    ...Would it be worth trying to upgrade the firmware for the dvd burner?
    If a newer one is available, I'd say it's worth a shot.

    Can you have Nero save a log of a session, then post it here?

    It could just be a dodgy drive, too. I've rarely had a burner last more than a few years, some for much less. It would cost you about $35 to find out for sure.
  • osaddictosaddict London, UK
    edited November 2006
    Here is a log from a DVD just burnt in Nero
    (Finalise option is greyed out still in the program, however, looking below it looks like it is finalizing it anyway...)

    OSA

    1A23-0609-4130-2312-1173-1310

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 17:35:34
    Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
    Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b

    Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D>Version: 1.07 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.16
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2000kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
    CD-ROM: <HITACHI DVD-ROM GD-5000 >Version: 0212 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : MAXTOR 6L020J1 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y120P0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : HITACHI DVD-ROM GD-5000 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a a347scsi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    HITACHI DVD-ROM GD-5000 D: CDRom0
    PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D E: CDRom1
    AXV CD/DVD-ROM G: CDRom2
    Generic DVD-ROM H: CDRom3
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 639MB (654884kB)
    Free physical memory: 55MB (57336kB)
    Memory in use : 91 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    27.11.2006
    ISO compilation
    20:32:40 #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
    Iso document burn settings
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet : TRUE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    20:32:40 #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    20:32:40 #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D running

    20:32:40 #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    20:32:40 #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    20:32:47 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2158239 (479:36.39, 4215MB)

    20:32:47 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD DVD)

    20:32:47 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
    Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: TTG02 -
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    20:32:47 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    20:32:47 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2158240 (2158240) = #2158240/479:36.40
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2158240 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D]

    20:32:47 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
    Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4420075520, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2158240 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    20:32:50 #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files started

    20:32:50 #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
    Cache writing successful.

    20:32:50 #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files completed

    20:32:50 #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process started at 4x (5540 KB/s)

    20:32:50 #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    20:32:51 #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2379
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    20:32:51 #18 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21708
    Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

    20:32:51 #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2534
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    20:32:51 #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    20:33:01 #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:33:01.038 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:36:08 #22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:36:08.537 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:36:56 #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:36:56.997 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:36:57 #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:36:57.117 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:36:57 #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:36:57.247 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:37:55 #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:37:55.411 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:37:55 #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:37:55.541 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:38:43 #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:38:43.460 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:41:34 #29 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:41:34.166 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:42:09 #30 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:42:09.176 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:42:21 #31 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:42:21.994 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:42:23 #32 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:42:23.947 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:44:12 #33 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:44:12.654 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:44:12 #34 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:44:12.804 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    20:48:37 #35 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
    <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2158240 (20EEA0h), lenght 0 blocks

    20:48:37 #36 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    20:48:37 #37 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2774
    EndDAO: Last written address was 2158239

    20:49:13 #38 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,540 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=8.0.0.212 , size=2560 bytes, created 19/05/2006 21:16:24
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=3.00.11B, size=46080 bytes, created 16/05/2006 20:23:54 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=?.?.?.?, size=95360 bytes, created 03/08/2004 21:59:44 (Adapter driver for rec)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited December 2006
    I don't see anything in the log, save perhaps for the multiple instances of:

    20:37:55 #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    20:37:55.541 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D\H1 T1 : Queue again later

    Can you try the drive in a different computer? If it flakes out there in the same way it is doing now, it would pretty much indicate that the drive itself is the culprit.
  • osaddictosaddict London, UK
    edited December 2006
    I've uninstalled all the burning apps I had apart from Ashampoo burning studio, I can burn with this, if I dont finalize then the drive recognises the disks fine.... I havnt tried finalizing yet, I will do shortly.

    However, that means all the dvd's I wrote with nero and xp cd burner pro still do not work in my drive, is there any way I can get the content off these?
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited December 2006
    Have you tried them in any other drive?
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