This can't be my 1700+'s limit

ClutchClutch North Carolina New
edited October 2003 in Hardware
Right now I'm running my JIUHB 1700+ at 185x10.5 stable, and have been for about a month or so now. Memory is set to aggressive timings and voltage at 1.7 on my NF7-S 2.0


Tonight I tried upping the multiplier to 11 with 1.725 voltage, same memory timings ( 2.5-3-3-7 ) btw it's Kingston Hyper X 3200, 2 sticks of 256.


When running at 185x11 at 1.725 I would get constant freezes, every time I start up. I checked temps and they were around 47 celcius in bios at those settings.


I know I can squeeze more out of this chip, just wondering if I should change my memory timings, and what to set them to. Right now I'm running P95 again to make sure I'm stable also.


TT smart fan on a slk-800 also is my heatsink/fan

Any ideas?

Comments

  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    does quick math in head....10.5x185=1942....11x185=2035...

    what is the stepping?..my DUT3C needs 1.75v to run 2100, but only 1.7v to run 2000...I can hit max of 2200 @ 1.80v...

    i doubt its the ram with having PC3200..

    if u got a DLT3C chip u should be able to go higher than 2200 easily...

    temps might be a problem if ur at 47c in bios...depends on ur load temp...although i doubt temps are a problem yet...
  • JBJB Carlsbad, CA
    edited October 2003
    It could just be the limit...my Tbred XP1700+ is currently at 166*10.5, and thats all the higher i can push it at 1.725V, and i dont think you want to go much higher on air cooling. You could just be hitting the limit of the chip
  • ClutchClutch North Carolina New
    edited October 2003
    Nooo don't tell me that Radeon_Man :(

    The stepping is a JIUHB FatCat, I have seen plenty of the same chip ( well stepping ) go 2.2 no problem on air, that is why I was hoping my chip wasn't crapping on me.

    It's not like it is a big deal, I mean heck I got the chip for $42 back in the day when newegg was practically giving them away, but still I was wanting more, hehe
  • leishi85leishi85 Grand Rapids, MI Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    what week are they??
    my JIUHB 0309 does 2.5gh on air fine.
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited October 2003
    You could just have a poor overclocking chip, Clutch.:( I have a JUIHB DUT3C (1.6v) chip and it's comfortable spot is 133X15 @ 1.75v vcore. Much faster than that and I run into stability problems, even if I raise the vcore some more.
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Clutch had this to say
    The stepping is a JIUHB FatCat, I have seen plenty of the same chip ( well stepping ) go 2.2 no problem on air, that is why I was hoping my chip wasn't crapping on me.

    the complete stepping?

    like mine is...
    AXDA1700DUT3C
    JIUHB0307RPGW
    9807357280509

    mudd...have u ever tried ur DUT3C @ 1.7v @ 2.0ghz??...might run a little cooler if it does...

    fc
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Clutch,

    Sorry but I must agree with others here.

    Maybe some info on you bios settings might help.
  • LIQuidLIQuid Raleigh, NC
    edited October 2003
    yeah man it sounds like a ****ty chip :/

    My 1700+ has been at 220x10.5 for a while at 1.725v

    its a 0310 DLT3C though
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    It's a DUT3C with those clockspeeds. There is no doubt about it.
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited October 2003
    It's presently running at 34 C while folding. Heat isn't the issue, I don't beleive. I'm cooling it with a MC462 with a Vantec Tornado, which is on a 3 speed switch so I can live with the noisy sucker. I even tried running that howler on high when trying to push that proc to 2.1, still no go.:(
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Thrax,

    My 2100 is a DUT3C and it goes 2420 no problem so you can't really blame it on that. I think it is luck of the draw for a lot of it and that luck works both ways.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    You must also realize that your DUT3C <b>really</b> does defy the norm. Most DUT3C chips, to the tune of 95%, never top 2200MHz on reasonable voltages and temperatures.

    I can see him getting 2200MHz at about 1.825v, and not a lot more.
  • ClutchClutch North Carolina New
    edited October 2003
    I do not know the complete stepping guys, sorry, I would have to take my h/s and fan off and right now it is too late in the night for that to happen, hahah

    I ran P95 for 25 hours, 53 minutes with my current settings with no errors or warnings, so I think I will just take my chip and go with it, it is running like a champ for a $42 chip, so I can't complain.

    I was just wondering if my timings were okay, I'm guessing they are since I'm running the aggressive timings.

    Thanks for all the help guys.
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited October 2003
    don't be afraid to run 1.85 to 1.90 vcore to get the speed you want. As long as it's stable and under 60C diode reading is what matters.
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown
    smells a tbred a

    Remember when i told you not to order 1700's from newegg?:shakehead

    So you're sure this is a JIUHB? You should get at least 2.2-2.3 @ 1.9v with a nice heatsink, at worst if it's a DLT3C.
     Indiana
    edited October 2003
    smells a tbred a

    Remember when i told you not to order 1700's from newegg?:shakehead

    So you're sure this is a JIUHB? You should get at least 2.2-2.3 @ 1.9v with a nice heatsink, at worst if it's a DLT3C.
  • ClutchClutch North Carolina New
    edited October 2003
    I am 100% positive it is a JIUHB. Today I am going to try upping the voltage and see where I can get it. I will post back with the results.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    There were PLENTY of JIUHB/DUT3C. It's a DUT3C. We have one at school. Tops out at right around 2.1GHz on 1.825. Got it from newegg too.
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited October 2003
    I ran a few JIUHB DUT3C 0302 and 0307 at 2.3 to 2.4 ghz with 1.9 to 2.0 vcore. maybe not "reasonable" but stable and good Folders. This "reasonable" isn't overclocking anyways.


    I had 5 of those DLT3C Tbred A xp1700 from newegg after they ran out of B cores and none of them made it past 1.7ghz stable at any voltage. Others from newegg made 2.0ghz. All you can do is try and try again. BTW Arctic Silver 5 is doing really really good.
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