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EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
edited October 2003 in Hardware
Shortly after installing Alcohol 120% my optical drivers are now showing up under an "Unknown" tab in device manager and consequently are not treated properly as CD-Rom drives anymore.

Thus EAC no longer finds them, copy protection scanners cant see them, and it's plain annoying.

I have tried changing IDE drivers, removing the drives from device manager, etc etc, but nothing works.

Another strange thing is that both the drives say they are in "Multiword DMA Mode 2" which I know sucks as the DVD drive supports UDMA Mode 3 and the writer supports UDMA mode 2.

Any ideas? I really want to rip my new "Jim's Big Ego" CD's :(

NS

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  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Arse, forgot to attach the picture....

    NS
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    uninstall your via bus master ide controller and re-run the via 4-in-1 installer
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    primesuspect had this to say
    uninstall your via bus master ide controller and re-run the via 4-in-1 installer

    Already done it.
    Was the first thing I did.

    NS
  • MancabusMancabus Charlottesville, VA
    edited October 2003
    I've seen similar problems when people had a version of easy cd creator on their machines.

    It had something to do with the drivers that roxio or adaptec puts on the system. I do know that these drivers, if in existence, can interfere with drive recognition after installing another burning app.

    Just look in x:\windows\system32\drivers for cd*.sys and if any are created by roxio or adaptec try renaming then rebooting to see what happens.

    Even if you didn't put that trash on the system, I would check it anyways.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    There were only 3 files matching that, changing them to something else didnt work, they were just recreated.

    Uninstalling Alcohol, Nero 6 and Norton Systemworks didnt work either.

    I hate computers.

    NS
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited October 2003
    Check any ASPI File Layer files you can find.

    Also, it didn't stick anything in your autoexec.bat of config.sys files, did it? You might also use RegCleaner to make sure you got all of the fragments leftover after the uninstallation of the programs.

    Best O' Luck :wave:
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    profdlp had this to say
    Check any ASPI File Layer files you can find.

    Er.... how?

    Nothing in Autoexec or config.sys, so that cant be it...

    NS
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited October 2003
    NightShade737 had this to say
    profdlp had this to say
    Check any ASPI File Layer files you can find.

    Er.... how?

    Nothing in Autoexec or config.sys, so that cant be it...

    NS
    This site has a fairly good explanation, and lists some of the files you should look for.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Ok, tried a few things, didn't help.

    NS
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited October 2003
    Try deleting the drives and IDE controllers (including the "Unknown" devices) in Safe Mode.

    Before you reboot, run Regedit and look for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\IDE and delete any optical drives you see.

    Do the same for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\PCIIDE\IDEChannel.

    Then got to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE and look for Alcohol 120%, Nero, etc and make sure they are cleared out of the registry.

    It would be a good idea to set a restore point, and/or backup your registry first!

    Then reboot and see if you've got it.

    Good luck man! :smiles:
  • maggie99635maggie99635 Alaska
    edited October 2003
    This might be relevant it happens when you are installing and uninstalling burning software not just the roxio. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;270008
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    maggie99635 had this to say
    This might be relevant it happens when you are installing and uninstalling burning software not just the roxio. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;270008

    Thats Windows 2000 only, the keys dont exist in XP.

    Prof, I have already deleted the entire controler before. but I will try it with the registry this time too.

    NS
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Ok, tried deleting those values but it wouldn't let me, just kept giving me an "Error deleting blah blah" message.

    So that didn't help =/

    NS
  • BDRBDR
    edited October 2003
    If you're running XP, have you tried just restoring back to before you installed Alcohol 120%?


    :confused:
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    BDR had this to say
    If you're running XP, have you tried just restoring back to before you installed Alcohol 120%?


    :confused:

    I don't use system restore, because In the past, I found that the only problems system restore would ever actually fix, were ones I could easily do myself.

    I doubt restoring would help this.

    Anyway, I reinstalled Alcohol, and even though the drives still have the wrong device manager icon, they are now listed as CD-Roms, but, they are both still stuck in Multiword DMA mode 2 =/

    NS
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Multi-word DMA IS UDMA. non-Multi-Word DMA (plain old DMA is DMA). Problem is, something is setting the whole bus channel to slowest drive, and that happens a LOT. Can you connect the DVD onto a slave connect with HD??? That should force the DVD to UDMA\Multi-Word DMA 3 although consonant alteration of whole channel might force HD to UDMA3 also.

    One more time, no multi-word in front, it is only DMA, Multi-word in front is Ultra equivalent. Microsoft-speak.

    Also, for UDMA 3-5, some devices like to have an 80 conductor cable on newer and faster boards. Like DVDs and HDs. Conversely, some CD-RWs and most CD-R drives like 40 conductor cable. If putting DVD on same cable, try an 80 conductor cable and see what happens especially with the CD-RW or CD-R. Both my CD-RW and my CD-R on both machines live on 80 conductor ROUND cables now, a couple of CD-Rs I have run into and some CD-RWs HATE that with a passion, controller embedded on device goes intermittently semi-nuts until put back on its old style cable.

    John.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    No, it isn't.

    Multi-Word DMA is Multi-Word DMA and Ultra DMA is Ultra DMA which is why you will see drives specced with both, also shown here.

    Drives only need to be on an 80pin cable if they run at ATA66 or higher, 33 and below only a 40pin cable is needed. But the 80pin cable is backwards compatable with 33 and below.

    NS
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  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Fixed it. It was because the drives were set to "None" in the BIOS instead of Auto. Normally it doesn't cause a problem, but obviously does on this board.

    NS
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited October 2003
    Glad you tracked it down - wish I had had more ideas... :rolleyes:

    Way to stick with it!
    :thumbsup:
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