old KT7A info

edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
edited December 2003 in Hardware
OK, I can't find a link to an faq concerning setting up the KT7A. I am rebuilding my wife's KT7A and I am old enough that I have forgotten which drivers to load in what order. I screwed it up the first time, and I would like to only do it one more time.

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  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited October 2003
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    I know the manual says to install the via drivers first ...are you using xpsp1?

    edit://wait a minute didn't you get passed by a girl? HAHAHA:Pwned:
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    No, I am still running w2k. I only have sp3 on disc, I'll need to dl sp4, eventually.

    We will see how funny you think it is when BDR is a threat to you. If she can lay her hands on the hardware, no one is safe.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Do you have a list of the drivers you will be loading?
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    edcentric had this to say
    We will see how funny you think it is when BDR is a threat to you. If she can lay her hands on the hardware, no one is safe.

    Actually idunno why but production is not up to par for me the past week ...I guess I need to check things out back at the farm. :fold:
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Drivers, sure, practialy everything ever made is on this box.
    I have Cat3.8 intalled, my SB is working, now I am trying to get my damn modem installed so that I can dl the others and the updates. It is a USR hardware job that nothing recognises because it is an OEM.
    I really need to build myself an install CD. But last time I started I got so frustrated I gave up.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited October 2003
    edcentric had this to say
    ..If she can lay her hands on the hardware, no one is safe.
    No One expects the BDR!
  • BDRBDR
    edited October 2003
    BDR is making a list for new tower...

    you guys are :screwed: ;)
  • edited October 2003
    BTW Ed, how are those caps holding up on that KT7A? The reason I ask is that I just saw 2 KT7's bite the big 1 in the last week, both to swollen/burst caps.:eek2: They were bought about a month apart.

    I think that when I set up my K7T Turbo2 rig, which is a KT133A board, I installed my via drivers first, then started installing the other drivers such as sound and nic drivers. It should go about the same for your KT7A too, I imagine.
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Yea, I installed VIA first and then vid, sound, etc..
    I still can't get the USR driver to install, it wants NT, doesn't like w2k. I'll try another one in a minute.

    Caps holding up for now. I have three KT7As here, a KT7 at my Dad's and another KT7 in retirement. So far none have died.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    I have a kt7a at dads ...I installed xp and it was a piece of cake with the supramax.
  • SpinnerSpinner Birmingham, UK
    edited October 2003
    I was once the proud user of a KT7 (not 'A'), and one of my brothers secondary rigs (currently used for folding), runs a KT7, and it runs great. My dad (he he) as well has a KT7A, which I just spent a bit of time working on, I know those boards had problems in their infancy, but I regard both the KT133 and KT133A ABIT boards, to be two of the best boards I've ever come accross.
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    My modom will not load.
    I can't get the machine to install the com3 that it needs and the USR install will not run with w2k sp3.
    I am fuxored.
    I am going to try to borrow another hardware modom and see if it will go.

    Yes, I like the boards. I have never had hardware problems with any of them. I wish that I had the space to set them all up and run them.
  • edited October 2003
    Which model USR modem are you having problems with? Since you are running a KT7A, you still have an ISA slot, right? If you can't get it to work PM me; I have an old ISA amjet 56k modem that I used to run on the old KK266 board I used to have. I believe it still works, will send it to you if needed. When I used to use it, it worked great and was real hard to knock offline and would get good connection speeds too.
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    These are USR 2799 'OEM' modems.
    You usually find them re-branded in Dell and Gateway boxes.
    Once installed they work great, but now I can't get it in.
    i'll pm you.
  • FlintstoneFlintstone SE Florida
    edited October 2003
    Ed, ygpm!

    Flint
  • godzilla525godzilla525 Western Pennsylvania Member
    edited October 2003
    muddocktor said
    ...The reason I ask is that I just saw 2 KT7's bite the big 1 in the last week, both to swollen/burst caps.:eek2: They were bought about a month apart...

    Off-topic: What's with those caps anyway? On my KT7 I had to replace two of them around the CPU socket and two more by the AGP slot using ones from an old 440BX board. (still f:fold:lding) (board purchased Jan. '01)

    Unfortunately I haven't had the displeasure of attempting to install Win2k on my KT7 so YMMV... but IIRC if you use the HPT370 you need have the HPT370 drivers on a diskette and use that when Setup asks you for Storage/SCSI drivers.

    My usual procedure would be to install Windows, then the 4-in-1's if needed, then Video, Sound, NIC, etc., then service packs. I usually burn a CD with service packs and current drivers for essential hardware before I do a wipe/reformat.

    I think this only apply to Windows 98, but there were a few Seagate-provided files concerning tape drive detection that had to be deleted in safe mode/DOS before it would boot correctly.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited November 2003
    Bet you thought this thread was dead. :p

    When we refer to the "iffy" possibility of getting Athon XP CPU's to work in this board, does that mean work "at all", or work at a speed beyond the 1400 MHz (non-XP) speed which the board is guaranteed to be capable of supporting?

    To be specific, I want to move my girlfriends 1700+ into my KT7A-RAID (version 1). If it only runs at 1400 MHz I would be happy. I am getting ready to order a CPU to upgrade her comp and would rather not have to take both machines apart to test it, switch them back, (she needs the computer on a daily basis), then switch them a third time when the new CPU gets here.

    Would an Athlon XP 1700+ be guaranteed to work in this board, albeit possibly at only 10.5 X 133 (=1400)? It's not going to cost much more to upgrade her comp with a new 2400+ CPU than it would to buy the 1333 (non-XP) to replace the fried chip in my KT7A-RAID.

    Thanks! :thumbsup:
  • MJOMJO Denmark New
    edited November 2003
    Yes the KT7A was the best motherboard for the Athlon T-Bird.

    My KT7A-Raid is awaiting cap repair in the drawer.
    The KT7 and the KT7A both had their quirks.
    But if everything was/is done right it was/is a great motherboard.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited November 2003
    It's been the best board I've ever owned.

    Any idea if what I mentioned above will work?

    Thanks.
  • SpinnerSpinner Birmingham, UK
    edited December 2003
    profdlp had this to say
    Bet you thought this thread was dead. :p

    When we refer to the "iffy" possibility of getting Athon XP CPU's to work in this board, does that mean work "at all", or work at a speed beyond the 1400 MHz (non-XP) speed which the board is guaranteed to be capable of supporting?

    To be specific, I want to move my girlfriends 1700+ into my KT7A-RAID (version 1). If it only runs at 1400 MHz I would be happy. I am getting ready to order a CPU to upgrade her comp and would rather not have to take both machines apart to test it, switch them back, (she needs the computer on a daily basis), then switch them a third time when the new CPU gets here.

    Would an Athlon XP 1700+ be guaranteed to work in this board, albeit possibly at only 10.5 X 133 (=1400)? It's not going to cost much more to upgrade her comp with a new 2400+ CPU than it would to buy the 1333 (non-XP) to replace the fried chip in my KT7A-RAID.

    Thanks! :thumbsup:

    Well as I understand it, without cranking up the FSB, you won't be able to run it at anything more than 1.4GHz, however it should run at 1.4GHz fine. But that's just my best guess, as this kind of stuff ain't really my forte. As for whether or not the chip will actually be compatible, well... as you probably know, only version 1.3 of that board officially supports Athlon XPs, but that may be limited to Palominos also. Is your 1700+ Palomino or Thoroughbred?

    However, as you board is version 1.0, a 1700+ may not work. It's a case of it either will or won't I think, at least with regard to the Palominos. The problems will only be when trying to post, if it posts then you should be home free, as I believe the main incompatiblity is with the way the CPU is started up. The only way to know is to try it and see. If your chip is a Thoroughbred though, I doubt very much that that will work in any KT7A.

    This is just off the top of my head, so I might be wrong on a lot of things. Nevertheless.

    Hope that helps.

    Cheers
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited December 2003
    Tried the 1700+

    Chip is:
    AX1700 DMT3C
    AGOGA 0204CPFW
    Y76403350103

    Set it for 11X133 (CPU stock settings). POST was fine, boot went fine right up until the end, then had a spontaneous reboot.

    Tried again at 10.5X133 (rated max for the board). No video, though I did have activity on the IDE LED. Tried fritzing around with AGP drive strength, etc. Never could get video again. Cussed a little and gave up.

    Then tried the same process in my backup comp (ASUS A7V133). Never got anywhere. Cussed some more.

    Went to the store and bought an MSI KT4V for the 1700+. The sucker is Folding as we speak. Temps look good. Getting ready to try and OC the rascal this afternoon.

    Now I'm in the ironic position of having my main rig (the Abit, back with the Athlon 1200) be slower than my backup comp. I'd re-do everything to switch over, but I expect to be doing a new system build very soon (see sig).

    Never Say Die! :fold:
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    I'll chip in an update as well.
    My KT7A with the updated bios will not run the 1700. It acts like the bios is fubar. But slap the 1.33 or a 1600 in it and it runs fine.
    My wifes KT7A (ver 1 also) on the otherhand now shows settings in the bios up through 2100.
    Load the new bios. If it gives you the choices it will run, if not, Oh well.
    The 1700 will go into my wife's and run stock speed. The 1600 will go into my folder and I'll just crank the fsb.
    My MSI runs great. Fast cpu (for me) and slow (cheap) memory. Perfect for folding. I have the fsb at 142 now.
  • FlintstoneFlintstone SE Florida
    edited December 2003
    You should be able to run that 1700 at 2100+ or better speeds. I've got a 1500+ running at 2000+ and a 1700+ running at 2100+, both on MSI KT3 boards right now. Have some fun!

    Flint
  • polarys425polarys425 Harrisonburg, VA
    edited December 2003
    Off-topic: What's with those caps anyway? On my KT7 I had to replace two of them around the CPU socket and two more by the AGP slot using ones from an old 440BX board. (still f:fold:lding) (board purchased Jan. '01)


    Cheap taiwaneese caps that lacked a proper additive to prevent the formation of hydrogen gas within its water-based electrolyte.

    I've repaired about 4 KA7's, 3-4 KT7-KT7A's, and a Gigabyte. I even had an Asus K7V that would hang up randomly, mostly at the memory testing phase during initialization. The caps werent swelling or leaking, but i did take a chance and replaced the caps in the vicinity of the ram slots, and the problem was solved. Sad part is i destroyed a board just like it several months before, for doing the same thing. I'd had enough, and the board payed the price.

    I even still have quite a collection of new replacement caps.
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