windows XP boot problem -- services.exe app error at 0x37001160

edited January 2007 in Science & Tech
Hey folks - been working with a couple great folks over on the malware forum with the initial thought that this might be malware related, but at this point the opinion is now that it's looking more like a windows system problem. So here I am. Perhaps a Windows Expert can take a look at this.

Lalptop: Win xp pro SP2 - all updates.
I was in the process of installing BitDefender v10 and at the same time windows update was doing it's thing with some updates from this week. Anyway, both installations got hung up. I was able to cancel the bit defender install, and it appeared to do a rollback with the backward progress bar, etc, but it didn't look like it completed all the way. The Windows update also said it did not intall successfully. They were both hung up. So after 10 mins of no activity, I rebooted.

Now, I get the following red X error msg when my computer starts up:
<<Services.exe application error. The instruction at "0x37001160" referenced memory at "0x37001160". The memory could not be "read". Click OK to terminate the program, click cancel to debug the program.>>

After clicking OK, it gives the same services.exe red X error message a second time. Click OK again and it give the same error message but with "explorer.exe", twice. And then finally it give the same error message for "lsass.exe". When all these red X errors are done, the "NT Authority System" begins the 1 minute shutdown with the message The PC never makes it to the desktop, no desktop icons appear, no taskbar. After the 1 minute countdown, the PC does not shutdown - it just hangs there. FYI - I can do a ctrl-alt-del while it is hanging there and after about 3-4 mins the task manager appears, if that means anything.

I can start in safe mode and safe mode with networking.

So it looks like I screwed up my laptop.

I've read several sites that seem to think it has to do with a worm, but I think the symptoms are not quite the same. In any event, I scanned for viruses with upto-date defs and online scanners and found none. no lsass virus either.

All this because I was installing that dang BitDefender to help a friend create a rescue CD!! Arghhh. Bottom line, what do I need to do and where do I begin to fix this problem?? I have modest computer experience and will work hard to help fix this. PLEASE HELP!!

Thank you,
max

Comments

  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited January 2007
    Well, the references I can find on the web yield multiple trojans or memory damage.
    I know one AV that has strong trojan and detection, it is F-Prot:
    you can get a free 30 day trial of it right onto your laptop if safe mode with
    networking lets you get online.
    If not, use a different computer and get it.
    http://www.f-prot.com is the site location, just click on Download on the main page.
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Hello Max
    The first thing I would do would be to explore the possibility of a hardware issue. My recommendation would be to download MEMTEST86. You'll need to create a bootable diskette or CD w/ it. If you need help w/ that just let us know and we'll step you through it. Place the diskette or CD in its respective drive on your computer and reboot. The computer (if the BIOS boot device priority settings are set to check for bootable media on the floppy drive or the CD drive b4 the HDD) will boot to the disk and start the memory diagnostic automatically. (If it doesn't, let us know. We'll step you through changing your BIOS settings.) Let the diagnostic run for at least a couple of hours. If this test passes w/ no errors, we'll have steps to follow this one in troubleshooting your system.

    While trouble-shooting this issue, disconnect all non-essential devices from your computer. Leave only the keyboard, monitor and mouse connected.

    BTW, please, make sure that the power supplied to your computer is ok. Either plug the computer directly into an available power outlet or, (preferably) if available, plug the computer into an UPS or quality power surge suppressor. (For more info. re: protecting your computer from power anomalies & events, please, go here.)
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited January 2007
    maxwelltf did a good job of summarizing his situation. For the unexpurgated version, head over here. :)
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    profdlp wrote:
    maxwelltf did a good job of summarizing his situation. For the unexpurgated version, head over here. :)
    hmmmmm......E-x-p-u-r-g-a-t-e {...back to dictionary.com..... Ahhhhh!!!...}

    To my delight, I have found that not only do I benefitting greatly from the incredible depth of technical knowledge & expertise possessed by many on SMs forums, but that I am increasing my worldly knowledge & non-technical vocabulary as well. Who'd 'a thunk it?! :D

    ---

    Thankyou for the link professor. I'll give it a read soon as I get a 'tic.... :smiles:
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited January 2007
    If we can get him into Normal Mode, that would be a excellent.
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Trogan wrote:
    If we can get him into Normal Mode, that would be a excellent.
    I re-read Max's post and, yes, that's a very good point Trogan. If he's able to get into Safe Mode ok then it's back to looking at a sofware-related issue.

    My apologies. I need to go back and read through his posts more carefully....

    In the interim, Max, please download Dial-a-Fix and ATF-Cleaner. Burn them to CD so that they can be run in the computer you are experiencing difficulties with. While in Safe Mode, copy both apps. to your desktop...
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited January 2007
    Pterocarpous, do you think ATF-Cleaner will have any kind of impact? Its only a Temp cleaner.
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Trogan wrote:
    Pterocarpous, do you think ATF-Cleaner will have any kind of impact? Its only a Temp cleaner.
    Not towards remedying the problem, no. It's just a good tool to have onhand to employ at various stages of the troubleshooting process.

    Unfortunately, my attention's a bit monopolized right now as I'm working on a computer and need to stay focused (so's I don't goof up) while doing that.

    Perhaps somone could step in who has some time to help out Max???? :)
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited January 2007
    I understand. Your client obviously has to come first. I wish I was a Windows Expert, but I'm not.

    Would a Windows CD be of any use? I've asked Max if he has a Windows CD. Have not got an answer
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Trogan wrote:
    I understand. Your client obviously has to come first. I wish I was a Windows Expert, but I'm not.

    Would a Windows CD be of any use? I've asked Max if he has a Windows CD. Have not got an answer
    It could prove useful, yes. Difficult to tell at this stage, however. Would be a good idea to have it onhand. That's why I requested he get the other two tools as well. :smiles:

    EDIT://
    As for "Expert" you rule when it comes to malware, Trogan!! :thumbsup:
  • edited January 2007
    Hey folks - thanks so much for the follow up of looking into this. I too have been doing what I can (all day) to sort this problem out. Here is what I have accomplished. I turned off all the service and startup stuff associated with Network Associates and Bit Defender, AND I renamed and relocated the Program Files\Network Associates folder to keep it out of the startup loop. Doing this I was able to boot successfully into normal mode. YES! But there are still issues...

    1) I was able to uninstall Bit Defender - something I wanted to do very much since I suspected it was a cause due to it's incomplete installation. So, as it stands now, I THINK BitDefender has been completely uninstalled - but how do I know for sure. I have read a few posts that people have also THOUGHT that BitDefender was removed, but it continued to cause problems.

    2) I have yet to turn back on the services and startup items back on. Plan to do so one at a time. The biggest will be to turn back on services related to Network Assoc antivirus.

    3) I seem to be getting a LSA Shell error (several of them) upon each boot up. Posts indicate it might be a Sasser worm - I have used WMRT and FxSasser to check and they came back neg.

    4) I am trying to remove CounterSpy (having learned that multiple spyware tools is a bad idea), but keep getting Internal Error 2738.

    Ptero - I will download the tools and burn to CD (just to have them as you have said), and run them.

    -max
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited January 2007
    maxwelltf wrote:
    ...I THINK BitDefender has been completely uninstalled - but how do I know for sure...
    You can use RegCleaner (free) to make sure the Registry is clean. Be careful - it doesn't differentiate between "good" or "bad" programs - it lists them all. Don't remove anything unless you want it really, really gone.

    ...I am trying to remove CounterSpy (having learned that multiple spyware tools is a bad idea), but keep getting Internal Error 2738...
    It's fine to have multiple AntiVirus or AntiSpyware tools, so long as only one of them is loaded at any given time. I have several AntiSpyware tools I use on a regular basis, along with a couple of AntiVirus programs. The only one I leave running all the time is AVG AntiVirus; the rest are just there for when I'd like a second opinion and are terminated once they are done doing their thing. :)
  • KentigernKentigern Milton Keynes UK
    edited January 2007
    Hi Max

    You could try windows own internal System File Checker

    If you have a Windows CD, insert it into the CD/DVD Drive.
    Close the Window that appears.

    (If you don't have a Windows CD, skip on to next steps)

    Click Start then Run, then type sfc /scannow in the window.
    Click OK.
    The scan should take anywhere from 5-15 minutes.
    Windows File Protection will scan for altered files.
    Ideally it restores any corrupted window files. :)
  • edited January 2007
    Thanks Profdlp - I understand, good advice. I do still want to remove CounterSpy, and I'll keep AVG and Network Associates since I have paid licenses for both of them. So, what the heck is the problem with this CounterSpy uninstall error?

    Thanks Kentigern - now that I can get into normal mode, I will run the SFC tool and see if it has anything to say, but since I am back to normal mode - hopefully it wont. Does it take any action or does it just check and advise? What happens if it finds something? Doesn't it matter that the CD would be outdated compared to an Windows Updated XP system?

    -max
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited January 2007
    Good news, Max! Give me an hour or so and I'll post some further instructions in your thread in the Spyware forum.
  • KentigernKentigern Milton Keynes UK
    edited January 2007
    It usually just restores it's files - I don't understand it fully - however if you go to start - help (from menu) search on system file checker it brings up a list and sfc is usually near the bottom.
    The topic gives quite a lot of info on the different settings etc.

    Hope this helps:)
  • edited January 2007
    HJT log attached. Main problems are:

    1) verifying Bit Defender was completely installed. There are still some lines in the MSCONFIG tool that reference BitDefender. ???

    2) LSA Shell error have gone away - not sure why. Posts indicate it might have been the Sasser worm - I used WMRT and FxSasser to check and they came back neg. Anythin else I should look for?

    3) trying to remove CounterSpy, but keep getting Internal Error 2738. Laptop has the latest jscript.dll file from MS installed, so ruled out that cause.

    -max

    Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
    Scan saved at 6:03:36 PM, on 1/13/2007
    Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

    Running processes:
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
    C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\pctspk.exe
    C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPLpr.exe
    C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPEnh.exe
    C:\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan\SHSTAT.EXE
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Network Associates\TalkBack\TBMon.exe
    C:\Program Files\Network Associates\Common Framework\UpdaterUI.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
    C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\guard.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\Program Files\Network Associates\Common Framework\FrameworkService.exe
    C:\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan\Mcshield.exe
    C:\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan\VsTskMgr.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\MsPMSPSv.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
    C:\Program Files\HJT\Analyse.exe

    R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.yahoo.com/
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Connection Wizard,ShellNext = http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
    O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
    O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0\bin\ssv.dll
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ATIModeChange] Ati2mdxx.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ATIPTA] C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PCTVOICE] pctspk.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KernelFaultCheck] %systemroot%\system32\dumprep 0 -k
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SynTPLpr] C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPLpr.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SynTPEnh] C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPEnh.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ShStatEXE] "C:\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan\SHSTAT.EXE" /STANDALONE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Network Associates Error Reporting Service] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Network Associates\TalkBack\TBMon.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [McAfeeUpdaterUI] "C:\Program Files\Network Associates\Common Framework\UpdaterUI.exe" /StartedFromRunKey
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
    O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
    O16 - DPF: {193C772A-87BE-4B19-A7BB-445B226FE9A1} (ewidoOnlineScan Control) - http://downloads.ewido.net/ewidoOnlineScan.cab
    O16 - DPF: {2BC66F54-93A8-11D3-BEB6-00105AA9B6AE} (Symantec AntiVirus scanner) - http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/SharedContent/vc/bin/AvSniff.cab
    O16 - DPF: {5D86DDB5-BDF9-441B-9E9E-D4730F4EE499} (BDSCANONLINE Control) - http://download.bitdefender.com/resources/scan8/oscan8.cab
    O16 - DPF: {5ED80217-570B-4DA9-BF44-BE107C0EC166} (Windows Live Safety Center Base Module) - http://cdn.scan.safety.live.com/resource/download/scanner/wlscbase8460.cab
    O16 - DPF: {644E432F-49D3-41A1-8DD5-E099162EEEC5} (Symantec RuFSI Utility Class) - http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/SharedContent/common/bin/cabsa.cab
    O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/muweb_site.cab?1156438812346
    O16 - DPF: {7B297BFD-85E4-4092-B2AF-16A91B2EA103} (WScanCtl Class) - http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/webscan.cab
    O16 - DPF: {AB86CE53-AC9F-449F-9399-D8ABCA09EC09} (Get_ActiveX Control) - https://h17000.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAVA/Secure/HPGetDownloadManager.ocx
    O16 - DPF: {E36C5562-C4E0-4220-BCB2-1C671E3A5916} (Seagate SeaTools English Online) - http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/asp/tools/en/bin/npseatools.cab
    O16 - DPF: {EB387D2F-E27B-4D36-979E-847D1036C65D} (QDiagHUpdateObj Class) - http://h30155.www3.hp.com/ediags/hpfix/aio/en/check/qdiagh.cab?326
    O18 - Protocol: msnim - {828030A1-22C1-4009-854F-8E305202313F} - "C:\PROGRA~1\MSNMES~1\msgrapp.dll" (file missing)
    O20 - Winlogon Notify: WgaLogon - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WgaLogon.dll
    O21 - SSODL: WPDShServiceObj - {AAA288BA-9A4C-45B0-95D7-94D524869DB5} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\WPDShServiceObj.dll
    O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
    O23 - Service: AVG Anti-Spyware Guard - Anti-Malware Development a.s. - C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\guard.exe
    O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\1150\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
    O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Computer, Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
    O23 - Service: McAfee Framework Service (McAfeeFramework) - Network Associates, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Network Associates\Common Framework\FrameworkService.exe
    O23 - Service: Network Associates McShield (McShield) - Network Associates, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan\Mcshield.exe
    O23 - Service: Network Associates Task Manager (McTaskManager) - Network Associates, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan\VsTskMgr.exe
    O23 - Service: Machine Debug Manager (MDM) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE (file missing)
    O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited January 2007
    Wrong thread, Max. :D
  • edited January 2007
    Ok - this spyware is a strange world. I uninstalled that Prevx program, and then rebooted. I then sent you the HJT log. Then I went back and just tried to uninstall the CounterSpy, on the chance there was a conflict between it and Prevx. Sure enuf, once Prevx was out of the way, then CounterSpy completed it's uninstall. So the remaining issue is making sure these tools are COMPLETELY removed from everywhere, the HD, the registry, the MSCONFIG tool, the Services tool, etc. This is where I need help. I don't really understand the registry and what can and cannot be done there. BTW - I have turned System Restore back on, so my anxiety has dropped accordingly (unless you tell me SR is not what it's cracked up to be). -max
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