Recovery/backup how to?

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  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    ...one thing i was wondering, when i get windows vista shipped to me and i install it, will i loose everything off this computer....
    In the best of worlds, no. It should leave your data intact. Should being the operative word here. Upgrading your operating system is a huge change. Don't take any chances. Image your HDD first.
    ...if so the HDD image i made, i can use that to get my files but not change the OS back to xp?...
    That's correct. You can "mount" the image (using ATI) that you created just as though it were another HDD. You can then navigate through the image and pull files off if you like.

    You'll find that having a good imaging utility like ATI is an invaluable tool to have. Beats the pants off of any so called "recovery" utilities that come w/ many computers these days. Imaging is the best way to go, hands down.
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited January 2007
    yea, it does seem a lot better..........

    well thanks for all the help

    im gonna go out and buy some blank dvds probably 2morrow, and burn these discs..........


    the only concern i have left is that u said i should validate to see if they are good, how do i do that?
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    ...the only concern i have left is that u said i should validate to see if they are good, how do i do that?...
    You can validate the image right after the image creation process (see the detailed instructions in post # 31, Step # 20)

    To validate an image later - after you've created the image...
    1. Open ATI
    2. In the left pane, choose VALIDATE BACKUP ARCHIVE
    3. Click NEXT
    4. In the left pane, navigate to where the image is located.
    5. Click NEXT
    6. Follow the remaining prompts
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited January 2007
    ok when i go to slit the image or whatever, in the dropdown menu there is no 4.25 gb there is a 4.7 gb is that what i should click? or should i type it myself?


    EDIT: when i burn the disc i just burn it as a data disc and that will work right?
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    ok when i go to slit the image or whatever, in the dropdown menu there is no 4.25 gb there is a 4.7 gb is that what i should click? or should i type it myself?...
    Please, refer to post # 31 steps 16 thru 18
    ...EDIT: when i burn the disc i just burn it as a data disc and that will work right?...
    Breaking the image into multiple (smaller) parts is called SPLITTING (or "spanning").

    Do not choose 4.7GB. Unless Acronis has fixed this bug, the resulting file sizes will exceed 4.7GB. Therefore they'll be too large to fit onto DVD. Through experimentation, I arrived at 4.25GB as the files size option that would result in creating image files that would be small enough to fit onto a DVD.

    Yes, that's correct. In your burning software, choose "DATA DVD". Burn each file to a DVD+/-R or RW disc. Be sure to label each DVD w/ the name & date of the image & the number in the series of the image file that is on the DVD.

    For example:
    [Name you gave the image when you created it]
    [Date the image was created]
    Disc [X] of [Y] where X is the no. in the series of the image file and Y is the total number of files that comprise the image. For example: Disc 1 of 3
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited January 2007
    Well it worked, and i validated it and it worked............. i then cliked on the backups and opened them, with no passwords or anythings


    but when i burnt it on disc, and click on it, it said i need to enter a password..............

    any idea on what to do here
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Somewhere along the line you password protected either one or more of the image files when burning them to DVDs or the image itself. Or, perhaps a file is corrupted (on one of the DVDs).

    I tested opening ATI (Acronis True Image) files off of (2) DVDs that comprised (1) image this a.m. Regardless of which file I double-click on, ATI opens w/ no prompts to enter a password.

    FYI:
    When you do wish to view the contents of an image that is spanned across 2 or more DVDs, you must start with the DVD containing the last image file 1st. If you start w/ the DVD that contains the 1st file in the image, for example, ATI will simply prompt you to insert the DVD with the last image file instead. (Please, see pics)

    What I recommend you do is burn the image files to DVD again AND verify the files after they have been burned to the each DVD. I use Nero Express for burning my data DVDs and, in the case of image files especially, I always have Nero verify the file(s) as the last step in the burning process. If a verification fails, I shred the DVD and burn the file again to a new DVD.
    • Yes, there should be two verification/validation processes.
    • (1) Validate the integrity of the image using ATI's Validate An Image Archive option.
    • (2) Verify the integrity of the file(s) on each DVD after you've burned files to them. This is accomplished through your burning software.
    CASE-IN-POINT:
    • I just this morning had a client call me re: a file he said was missing from his wife's laptop computer after I'd serviced it back in October of last year. To protect myself from such accusations, I image every hard drive that I work on and burn the image to DVDs.
    • I pulled the DVDs that I'd burned the image to off the shelf.
    • Uploaded the image files to my hard drive.
    • Mounted the image as another hard drive using ATI.
    • Performed a search for all files of the type she'd lost track of (an excel file)
      (They don't even know what the file was called)
    • Copied the files off of the image.
    • Zipped them up and emailed them to my client.
    Had I not taken the precautions I'm advising you to take, I might not have been able to access the image either because it was corrupted when it was created or because one or both of the files became corrupted when they were burned to DVD.
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited January 2007
    well i checked it twice the nine 4.25gb backups did not have passwords and i know for a fact............... and i didnt make a password on the dvd, i dont even know how to do that............

    i burnt the disc with nero and after it asked for a password, i burnt it on a new disc with sonic and got the same thing?


    so i think im just gonna go burn them all and try puttug the last one in, i just dont want to waist 9 dvds:scratch:
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    well i checked it twice the nine 4.25gb backups did not have passwords and i know for a fact............... and i didnt make a password on the dvd, i dont even know how to do that............
    i burnt the disc with nero and after it asked for a password, i burnt it on a new disc with sonic and got the same thing?
    so i think im just gonna go burn them all and try puttug the last one in, i just dont want to waist 9 dvds:scratch:
    Burn the image to HDD 1st. Then try opening the image w/ ATI (Acronis True Image). If you can open it and you aren't prompted for a PWD (password) then it should be ok. If you take THOSE image files and burn them to DVDs you shouldn't be prompted for a PWD when you attempt to open that image off of the DVDs. If you ARE prompted for a PWD, then there's something goin' on w/ the burn process and it has nothing to do w/ ATI.

    BTW, you might want to consider using DVD RWs as they are re-writable. :smiles:
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited January 2007
    i did try using the hdd drive image that ATI made, and it worked perfectly fine without a password

    then i burnt it and it and then tried to open the file on the dvd and it asked for a password, so i burnt it again with a different burning program and got the same thing........... now i dont know what to do:eek3: :scratch:
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    i did try using the hdd drive image that ATI made, and it worked perfectly fine without a password...then i burnt it and it and then tried to open the file on the dvd and it asked for a password, so i burnt it again with a different burning program and got the same thing... now i dont know what to do:eek3: :scratch:
    Well, you got me there Trumandrummer. :scratch: I really don't believe it's an issue w/ Acronis True Image. I'd give ATI Support a shout just to be sure, though - see what they say.

    You have an external HDD, right? Keep a copy of the image there just in case you're not able to use the DVDs if you ever need to restore an image.
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited February 2007
    well i couldnt get them to burn without asking for a password so..... i put them on 2 different external hard-drives to be a little more safe........

    now that my recovery partition is gone, is there and way i can get rid of the partition and at that 12gb to my main thing without like reformating and stuff?
  • TrumandrummerTrumandrummer Taylor Michigan Icrontian
    edited February 2007
    bump
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