What Media Player Is Used Here????

PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
edited January 2007 in Science & Tech
Hey ya'll. I need to check into a problem a user is having playing videos online. HERE is one example where the user is unable to play online videos.

I tried it myself w/in IE7 and it works fine but I don't know what media player it's using. It just comes up in another Yahoo! browser window and plays from there.

I'd check his multi-media player configurations but I don't know which player(s) involved.

Could someone, please, enlighten me re: how this streaming video is played, etc.?

TIA!
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  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    I neglected to mention that he is using Mozilla FF 2.0

    I tried it in Mozilla FF as well and ran into (what I think might be) the same problem. Please, see the pics re: Mozilla vs IE7 windows when trying to play the video.

    I looked at the settings (in the player window when opened in Mozilla) and there was nothing apparent that I could select to change how the video is played. I could only select the connection speed.
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited January 2007
    Well, I use Foobar for music, winamp for streaming video, and Nero Showtime for videos and movies.
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    airbornflght wrote:
    Well, I use Foobar for music, winamp for streaming video, and Nero Showtime for videos and movies.
    What's puzzling in this case is I don't know what player is being used so I don't know what players to change, etc. IOW, no player window comes up when the video is played (e.g. QT, WMP, RP, etc.) What happens when you try to play video at the same site??

    EDIT://
    (In Mozilla FF if you have it)
  • DonutDonut Maine New
    edited January 2007
    I don't really know, I was able to watch the news clips with Window Media player 10 installed. (in Firefox) Which videos are you trying to watch?
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited January 2007
    The video didn't work for me either with both Firefox and IE7. Firefox gives the error in the attachment. Video doesn't even load in IE. I don't know how the vid is streamed, sorry.
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Donut wrote:
    I don't really know, I was able to watch the news clips with Window Media player 10 installed. (in Firefox) Which videos are you trying to watch?

    Please, see the PIC. So does WMP UI come up when you play the video in Mozilla FF?
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Trogan wrote:
    The video didn't work for me either with both Firefox and IE7. Firefox gives the error in the attachment. Video doesn't even load in IE. I don't know how the vid is streamed, sorry.
    Thanx for checking Trogan. Maybe we'll get the issue sorted out for you as well in the process... :)
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited January 2007
    I'm counting on you ;)

    EDIT: This is what I get in IE...
  • DonutDonut Maine New
    edited January 2007
    Pterocarpous,

    When I click on the picture or the link to the news videos, it takes me to the same screen as you posted in your second post. I just wait a minute and the video starts to play. When I right click on the video and click "about", WMP 10 info pops up.

    Normally I don't watch vids as I'm to cheap to pay for a decent cable package. All I have is 256k up/down.
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Trogan wrote:
    I'm counting on you ;)
    :doh: Oh Lordy!! Now I really got t' figure this out!! :aol::)
  • miragemirage
    edited January 2007
    Donut wrote:
    Pterocarpous,

    When I click on the picture or the link to the news videos, it takes me to the same screen as you posted in your second post. I just wait a minute and the video starts to play. When I right click on the video and click "about", WMP 10 info pops up.

    Normally I don't watch vids as I'm to cheap to pay for a decent cable package. All I have is 256k up/down.


    Same here. Using Firefox, right clicking on the video screen and selecting "About" brings the WMP 11 info (WMP 10 was upgraded). I think, you need to check the WMP installation, maybe reinstall WMP.
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Thanx ya'll. Now I'm really stumped. I don't get any ABOUT option in the context menu when I right-click on the video????? (In Mozilla FF nor in IE7)

    Are ya'll right-clicking on the video picture b4 you choose the option to play it??? :confused2
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Trogan wrote:
    ...This is what I get in IE...
    I think we just need to configure your media player for IE, Trogan. What do you get in Mozilla FF?
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    mirage wrote:
    ...I think, you need to check the WMP installation, maybe reinstall WMP.
    I sure hope that's not it. WMP can be a real pain to fix when it's broke. I'm hoping it's just a configuration issue. I'll keep you recommendation in mind though for sure. Thanx!
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited January 2007
    For FF, I get the error attached in post #6. I agree that IE may need configuring, since I hardly use it.
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Trogan wrote:
    For FF, I get the error attached in post #6. I agree that IE may need configuring, since I hardly use it.
    Ahhh! Ok. We'll get that fixed Trogan. I'm doing some research right now. I'll be back! :range:
  • miragemirage
    edited January 2007
    Pterocarpous wrote:
    Thanx ya'll. Now I'm really stumped. I don't get any ABOUT option in the context menu when I right-click on the video????? (In Mozilla FF nor in IE7)

    Are ya'll right-clicking on the video picture b4 you choose the option to play it??? :confused2

    I checked with IE7 this time, right-click menu does not appear here either. :scratch: But Firefox still gives the right-click menu. Both browsers should be using WMP.
  • WingaWinga Mr South Africa Icrontian
    edited January 2007
    I was able to play it just fine. I'm using FF2. I did a screen print after checking the properties while the video was playing. I hope this helps a bit.
  • TroganTrogan London, UK
    edited January 2007
    Its no problem for me, seriously. I didn't mean to turn your thread into a help for me thread.
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Trogan wrote:
    Its no problem for me, seriously. I didn't mean to turn your thread into a help for me thread.
    Not at all. But why not kill two birds w/ one stone? (I hate that expression but don't know of another one that conveys the same meaning... :hrm: )
  • miragemirage
    edited January 2007
    Pterocarpous wrote:
    I sure hope that's not it. WMP can be a real pain to fix when it's broke. I'm hoping it's just a configuration issue. I'll keep you recommendation in mind though for sure. Thanx!

    In case you need to search for downloading the latest WMP10, here is the link.
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    mirage wrote:
    In case you need to search for downloading the latest WMP10, here is the link.
    Thanx mirage. Save me the trouble huntin' it down.

    I'm thinking that there's been a MM (multi-media) player update or install recently that has usurped his previous player settings. I know that QuickTime has been reaking havoc w/ peoples' mm settings w/ it's latest update.

    I'm going to be remoting in to his system in a few (once he's gone to lunch) and check it out. I'll let ya'll know what I find.

    Thankyou!
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    Ok. I got it working on his IE7.

    Configured WMP file associations (checked all in the interest of speed)
    Interestingly, I was then prompted to install an ActiveX control I haven't seen b4 (when I first tried playing the video after change the file type associations)
    See pic
    It's called the "Windows Media 6.4 Player Shim"
    Anyone ever heard of this?

    I'm trying to find the plugin for FF now. (It still doesn't work...)
  • miragemirage
    edited January 2007
    Pterocarpous wrote:
    Ok. I got it working on his IE7.

    Configured WMP file associations (checked all in the interest of speed)
    Interestingly, I was then prompted to install an ActiveX control I haven't seen b4 (when I first tried playing the video after change the file type associations)
    See pic
    It's called the "Windows Media 6.4 Player Shim"
    Anyone ever heard of this?

    I'm trying to find the plugin for FF now. (It still doesn't work...)

    Firefox does not need a special plugin for that. I think it is just not aware that you have fixed WMP. Why don't you just reinstall FF.
  • nonstop301nonstop301 51° 27' 24.87" N // 0° 11' 38.91" W Member
    edited January 2007
    I haven't heard of Windows Media 6.4 Player Shim but the warning for the ActiveX control is normal for Internet Explorer.

    What version of the Windows Media Player is installed on that computer by the way ?

    If you're still having trouble with FireFox check about : plugins in the address bar and see whether Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Link Library (npdsplay.dll), Microsoft® DRM (npdrmv2.dll) and Microsoft® DRM (npwmsdrm.dll) are present and enabled. If they aren't, the three .dll files will have to be copied into the FireFox plugins directory (C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins) from the C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player directory where they originally reside.
  • RiptideRiptide Northern Canada New
    edited January 2007
    I'm using FF 1.5.0.9, and it works just fine for me (even though I'm not intrested in US politics :))

    EDIT: didn't see the 2nd page, or that it's fixed...
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    mirage wrote:
    Firefox does not need a special plugin for that. I think it is just not aware that you have fixed WMP. Why don't you just reinstall FF.
    According to their web site it does (I think. I'll need to go back and check.). I checked [browser : plugins] in the url field. No WMP plugins installed.

    I do think I'm going to have to either re-install WMP or FF. Reinstalling FF would be the easies except that he has a bunch of add-ons installed. I'm going to try one or the other later tonite when he's off the computer for the day.

    He'd had some problems earlier in the week listening to streaming audio on his web site. It was cutting in and out or it would start then stop. Not positive which right now. Changing the WMP file associations settings fixed that.
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    nonstop301 wrote:
    ...I haven't heard of Windows Media 6.4 Player Shim but the warning for the ActiveX control is normal for Internet Explorer...
    I wasn't worried about the ActiveX control. I just hadn't heard of it b4. I checked for a comparable add-on or plug-in for FF on Mozilla's web site. Couldn't find one. All I could find was WMP listed as a plug-in. Following the links leads to a downlad of WMP. So, apparently, installing WMP is s'posed to be enough to get it to work w/ FF.
    nonstop301 wrote:
    ...What version of the Windows Media Player is installed on that computer by the way?...
    10
    nonstop301 wrote:
    ...If you're still having trouble with FireFox check about : plugins in the address bar and see whether Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Link Library (npdsplay.dll), Microsoft® DRM (npdrmv2.dll) and Microsoft® DRM (npwmsdrm.dll) are present and enabled. If they aren't, the three .dll files will have to be copied into the FireFox plugins directory (C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins) from the C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player directory where they originally reside...
    Now THAT sounds like the ticket nonstop301. I'll try that on my own system (where I'm experiencing the same issue) and let you know if it works. Thanx!
  • PterocarpousPterocarpous Rosie the Riveter Lives On in CA, USA! New
    edited January 2007
    nonstop301 wrote:
    ...If you're still having trouble with FireFox check about : plugins in the address bar and see whether Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Link Library (npdsplay.dll), Microsoft® DRM (npdrmv2.dll) and Microsoft® DRM (npwmsdrm.dll) are present and enabled. If they aren't, the three .dll files will have to be copied into the FireFox plugins directory (C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins) from the C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player directory where they originally reside.
    Oddly, I found the (3) DLLs in the system32\dllcache\ directory. They weren't in the Program Files\Windows Media Player directory

    I copied them to Mozilla Firefox\plugins
    Situation significantly improved! :bigggrin:
    Videos will play now. There just seems to be some functionality missing re: controlling the video play. (See in pic at the bottom IE7 vs Mozilla FF.)

    nonstop301, could you compare your Mozilla WMP plugins to mine, please?
    Do you have something that doesn't appear in mine?

    EDIT://-1
    It's missing from the pic of plugins but Mozilla picked up the npdrmv2.dll as well.
    EDIT://-2
    The functionality that is different between IE7 & Mozilla is:
    In Mozilla, the pause button and the sound (speaker) button are greyed out.
    The progress bar is missing.
    There are only the fast forward and rewind buttons available (in Mozilla FF).
  • nonstop301nonstop301 51° 27' 24.87" N // 0° 11' 38.91" W Member
    edited January 2007
    Pterocarpous wrote:
    Oddly, I found the (3) DLLs in the system32\dllcache\ directory.
    That's not where they are supposed to be. I'd recommend you copy them into C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player as well. It's probably why you had some trouble with Internet Explorer as well originally :)
    Pterocarpous wrote:
    Could you compare your Mozilla WMP plugins to mine, please? Do you have something that doesn't appear in mine?

    Those 3 dll's is what I have as well as far as Microsoft DRMs are concerned.
    Pterocarpous wrote:
    The functionality that is different between IE7 & Mozilla is:
    In Mozilla, the pause button and the sound (speaker) button are greyed out.
    The progress bar is missing.
    There are only the fast forward and rewind buttons available (in Mozilla FF).
    This is normal. FireFox uses the .dll differently but the multimedia will be displayed. These are Microsoft .dll's and are designed for maximum functionality with the Internet Explorer browser :)
    To Stop or Pause the stream with FireFox just right click in the video player and choose the relevant option accordingly.
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