FS: Shin Etsu G751 and X23-7762 thermal compound

gbrgbr
edited September 2003 in Trading Post
FS: 1 gram syringes of two top rated thermal compounds from Shin Etsu.

I read the reviews and wanted to try this stuff, but it was not easy to find. So , I ordered a bunch through my company....and they are excellent thermal compounds.

Here are the reviews:


http://www.insideproject.com/showreview.cfm?reviewid=81

http://www.meetthegeeks.org Look in 2002 Hardware reviews for thermal compounds

http://www.ocprices.com/index.php?rev_id=128&cat_id=68




G751 may be one of the best thermal compounds ...and the trickiest to apply, and the hardest to find at a good price. The shipping costs as much as the 1 gram syringe.


Shipping will be included, so the cost will be $7.60 for a 1 gram syringe, and $4.00 each for additional 1 gram syringes.

Example [for non credit card PayPal and US address] :

1 gram Shin Etsu G751 = $7.60 delivered

2 grams Shin Etsu G751 = $11.60 delivered

[That beats the $12.82 for 1 gram, or $18.82 for 2 gram price that I found online.]

Credit card and overseas customers can email me at vailchalet2 at aol.com for more info. Overseaes shipping typically adds $1.70 extra to the total to cover shipping.

email me and PayPal at vailchalet2 at aol.com My email

credit card PayPal at blueskybasin at centurytel.net other email


Shin Etsu's marking system

Red cappped syringe contains X23-7762

Blue cappped syringe contains G751


Another way to tell is by consistency:

-X23-7762 is more like grease and,

-G751 is a bit more like putty.

Here is a good application guide:

http://amdforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=230649&highlight=Application

I think both compounds are worth having. X23-7762 did outperform G751 by 1 degree C .

But I think it was because it was easier to apply.

There are lots of variables, but here are my rules of thumb.

Intel cpu: X23-7762

AMD cpu: G751 or X23-7762

Rough surface: G751

Lapped or polished surface: X23-7762

GPU, Northbridge, Southbridge, MOS -FET: G751

Not a very skiiled person applying the compound: X23-7762


X23 is newer and easier to apply, and theoretically should work slightly better.

My experience tells me that X23-7762 is the first choice for Pentium cpu's since it is a larger chip and application is an issue.. G751 equal or better for AMD cpu's.

G751 is clearly better for Northbridge, Southbridge and GPU chips, since they are rarely flat chips and the heatsinks for them are also rougher and have more runout....so the filler quality of G751 is more important than ease of smooth application.

Comments

  • seversphereseversphere
    edited August 2003
    can't wait for my X23-7762 to arrive

    :)
  • gbrgbr
    edited August 2003
    I know the feeling! I've been ordering enough from Shin Etsu that they have run out of raw material a few times and I have to wait for it to come from Japan!

    But its worth it!
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited August 2003
    Good stuff - Thanks GBR. :)

    ShinEtsu03a.jpg
  • gbrgbr
    edited August 2003
    Aug 18... Lets help TonyH by donating money from FS:Shin Etsu X23 and G751
    August 18 :


    OK, TonyH at pcabusers.net needs a bit of help after being injured in a car accident.

    PCabusers have a raffle, ( sort of like the one Jungleman did on amdforums.com to help out Tigsman ) !

    Here's the link to the raffle:

    http://www.pcabusers.com/forums/sho...&threadid=28554

    I've decided to do something to help also.

    I will raise the price per tube of the Shin Etsu I'm selling by $0.50 to $4.50 per tube.

    [Shipping stays the same.]

    I'll match the $0.50 per tube and send $1.00 per tube to TonyH.

    I am also donating 5 tubes to the raffle, and I bought some tickets.

    Coming back to the price increase...this will raise $146.00 which I will send to TonyH.

    [$73.00 from me, and $73.00 from all of you who buy this batch of Shin Etsu]


    [I have permission from Blade over at pcabusers.net to do this]

    These guys have helped all of us with trolls and done a lot of work for free to help make trading safer. So lets help someone through a rough patch!

    >>>Tony was test driving a car for his employeer and was hit by a dump truck. Tony was badly hurt. Also his employer, nor the driver of the dump truck, had any insurance.

    Since he was unemployed during his recovery period and can now only work limited hours, Tony could use some help with living expenses. Plus he is getting zero help from any insurance. Raffle ticket are $5 each. You can buy as many as you want, increasing your chances and also helping Tony more.

    You can help out a great guy, and in the process possibly win some cool prizes. <<<
  • BobyJoBobyJo N C Texas
    edited August 2003
    I purchased 4 syringes of the 751 stuff about 2 months ago. Really works great on the AMD chips.
    Temps are about 2-6c below the other stuff I had been using.
    (I never have used AS). I have been using a non conductive nanotherm compond that is a great product.
    I jsut put this P4 system together.
    I applied the 751 to the cpu (P4,3.0x800) and when I turned on the system the cpu went to just a bit over 50c on the digital display.
    Within a couple of hours the temp had lowered down to the hi 30c.
    The temps are steady in the low 30c to the mid 30c.
    Does not get above the 30c range.
    This stuff is great, just have to be sure it is applied properly.
  • gbrgbr
    edited August 2003
    I agree with you, application is the key!

    I put an application link in the first post of this thread.

    Jah Warrior's application Guide:

    http://amdforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=230649&highlight=Application

    I add one extra element to this, after I clean the CPU and heatsink , mask off the heatsink [with Post-Its] ...I rub a small amount of warmed thermal compound into both surfaces with my finger wrapped in saran wrap/ or baggie. The amount is enough to stain the surface, and the goal is to work some material into both surfaces.

    Then I apply a thin coat to the masked off surface on the warmed heatsink as in Jah's guide...making many small dots with warmed compound and pressing flat, and smoothing into an even coat. I do not try to work the compound, I try to get it right the first time....and then apply a few dots to areas that didn't cover perfectly.

    The desired thickness is as thick as the Post-Its, or slightly thicker 3 / 1000 of an inch [ 3 Mil]


    For other chips , I use the G751 and thickness is more a fuction of surface quality.


    If anyone wants to order some Shin Etsu, I've have about 60 tubes of X23-7762 and 60 of G751 left.

    I sent $70 to TonyH tonight, so I feel that this Shin Etsu deal has turned into a very good thing.

    It certainly is one of the best compounds, and TrollHunters has certainly helped many of us.

    In a sense TonyH and Blade probably have helped all of us by donating their time to help keep trolls out of online trading in the overclocking forums.

    I have four more days to take and fill orders before I go on a business trip to Europe... so now is the time to get some Shin Etsu.
  • gbrgbr
    edited September 2003
    Heatware is back up!

    And I sent a donation in already! *

    Fundraising for TonyH is almost finished , I have another 30 tubes of Shin Etsu X23-7762 and 30 tubes of G751 left to sell out of the batch I pledged as a fundraiser for TonyH.


    Question is should I donate money from each tube of Shin Etsu to heatware in the future ?








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