Not much lower. Eseentially the barton is the same (slightly more refined) core who gets the higher PR rating because of the additional cache, but not a whopping MHZ boost.
Well, i'm seeing a high 46 temp while browsing the internet and listening to music. I hope the barton doesn't give me these temps. I'm very disappointed. Everything I do, I can't get the temps lower. Maybe I should go to intel.
If your 1900+ is based on the old Palomino core than you are going to see significant temperature drops when switching to the Barton core. In addition to lower temps, the Barton 2500+ has a great deal of overclocking headroom and it is quite normal to see people running them at speeds of anywhere between 2-2.3 Ghz.
My Barton is stable at 46-47 C, runs like a workhorse. I don't OC, and that is 15 C above case ambient of 32 C. These Barton processors were designed for this kind of temp load.
The 2.26 GHz Intels are a tib cooler, but other tings keep the same heat load overall. The coolest INTELS actually do speed-stepping when not active, my Barton does not. I live in Florida and have no issues with my Barton. EXPECT a higher heat load with faster CPUS and those with bigger caches-- a large part of the heat is from speed pumped cache circuits in the core.
Yes, my 1900+ is based on the Palomino core. It locks up shortly after running a game. I've tried sevreral heat sinks with no luck. I have had the oppurtunity to use a Barton 2500+ with the stock amd heatsink and it ran with no problems. I played quite a few games and it never locked up. So I think I have made my decision. I'll order my Barton along with a new motherboard later this week.
The part i'm not looking forward to is rebuilding windows.
The palomino's run hot, but have more surface area to dissipate the heat. While the tbred cores run inherently cooler clock for clock, there's less surface area for dissipation and it basically makes cooling the same chore for both (tbreds tend to run slightly cooler, but the real benefit is the gained overlcocking headroom from the refined core... but they still get pretty hot). I know this because I tested this back when the first 1700 tbred 'A's were circulating.
Originally posted by Vintalage Yes, my 1900+ is based on the Palomino core. It locks up shortly after running a game. I've tried sevreral heat sinks with no luck. I have had the oppurtunity to use a Barton 2500+ with the stock amd heatsink and it ran with no problems. I played quite a few games and it never locked up. So I think I have made my decision. I'll order my Barton along with a new motherboard later this week.
The part i'm not looking forward to is rebuilding windows.
There are 2 temps. 22c and 34c. I'm assuming the 34c is my system temp. I only have 1 case fan. An exhaust. This is a new case. The last case I was using had an exhaust fan and an intake fan but the temps were much higher than my newer case which only uses an exhaust fan. I can't wait till the barton arrives.
The motherboard will be the top of the line Asus Nforce2 board. Right now, i'm using the ECS K7S5A.
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Mt_GoatHead Cheezy KnobPflugerville (north of Austin)Icrontian
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Originally posted by Vintalage There are 2 temps. 22c and 34c. I'm assuming the 34c is my system temp. I only have 1 case fan. An exhaust. This is a new case. The last case I was using had an exhaust fan and an intake fan but the temps were much higher than my newer case which only uses an exhaust fan. I can't wait till the barton arrives.
The motherboard will be the top of the line Asus Nforce2 board. Right now, i'm using the ECS K7S5A.
That 34C sys temp sounds about right if you are running around 46C CPU temp. You should add at least an intake fan for better circulation.
With that board, an XP2500 Barton and a SK-7/50CFM fan you should be able to run @ 11x200=2200 (default voltages) and still be cooler than you are now.
No reason, just prefer Asus. I'll check out what differences the Asus has to the Abit and then decide.
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Mt_GoatHead Cheezy KnobPflugerville (north of Austin)Icrontian
edited September 2003
Chech all the different forums and just look in to see what everyone has to say. I did a lot of research before buying mine and love it. There are several threads here as well as Short Media and Xtremesystems.
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The 2.26 GHz Intels are a tib cooler, but other tings keep the same heat load overall. The coolest INTELS actually do speed-stepping when not active, my Barton does not. I live in Florida and have no issues with my Barton. EXPECT a higher heat load with faster CPUS and those with bigger caches-- a large part of the heat is from speed pumped cache circuits in the core.
John Danielson.
The part i'm not looking forward to is rebuilding windows.
Buy a Thermalright SK7 ($16) & Sunon 50CFM ($8) 80mm Fan from SVC
Barton 2500+ (1.83ghz) @ 2.00ghz 40C Full load Temp!
In addition since you are running a Palomino now the Barton wil be very noticeably cooler. How's your case circulation??? And sys temps?
The motherboard will be the top of the line Asus Nforce2 board. Right now, i'm using the ECS K7S5A.
With that board, an XP2500 Barton and a SK-7/50CFM fan you should be able to run @ 11x200=2200 (default voltages) and still be cooler than you are now.
Not poking but just have to ask.