I don't know if the pencil trick (ie -- making a connection between the L1 bridges with lead) works with this particular Duron, it appears that there are pits between the L1's and this would be identical to unlocking an Athlon XP.
hey here is the deal yas the pencil trick worsk on the durons..... what u do is on the l1 bridges use a pencil to comnnnect them aka draw a line to connnect them....i know for a fact this works
Originally posted by phlip hey here is the deal yas the pencil trick worsk on the durons..... what u do is on the l1 bridges use a pencil to comnnnect them aka draw a line to connnect them....i know for a fact this works
On certain durons, sure. I've done it on several 700-1000mhz processors, but this one looks like a crippled Athlon core (looks a bit different from the other 5 durons I've owned).
Originally posted by phlip umm rear window defogger kit anyone?
Taping/covering the other pits is a bit tiresome. I liked the easy unlock of the kit that was being sold (simple pit filler that wasn't superglue/permanent and the conductive grease would just wipe away).
The one pictured has pits - you try the pencil trick or conductive compound, you'll short the CPU and you can toss it.
You'll need to fill in the pits (between the L1's) with something - I've used epoxy successfully - but it's a PITA; THEN use conductive compound or the pencil trick. You can also use an Upgradeware XP-TMC to unlock it without modding the CPU.
Highspeedpc.com sells the kit I was thinking of, and because it doesn't use superglue, it can be reverse/removed later and retain the warranty. Only problem I found with the kit is that after about a year the conductive grease starts to separate and loses not just its ability to stay in place, but doesn't seem to conduct anymore. I haven't used a single processor for more than 6 months in the past 3 years, so I never saw this as a problem and a decent trade-off for the convenience.
0
Mt_GoatHead Cheezy KnobPflugerville (north of Austin)Icrontian
edited October 2003
Since that appears to be one of "crippled Athlon" Duron's You can also get the larger L2 cache and 133 (266) FSB if you know what you are doing.
Just get an Upgradeware XP-TMC. It works, ain't too expensive and you can use it over and over on whatever CPU you got - also doesn't blow your warranty.
0
Mt_GoatHead Cheezy KnobPflugerville (north of Austin)Icrontian
edited October 2003
Upgradeware XP-TMC is actually made for use on boards that don't have an option in the bios for changing the multiplier. To use a chip on one of these you still need to unlock the chip by closing the L-1 bridges. It will also not unlock the missing cach in a crippled duron. If anyone isn't familiar with one of these here is the Upgradeware XP-TMC.
glaker
As a courtesy to others it is often important to provide a link when mentioning an unusual piece of hardware, a review or something said by someone. I learned this a long time ago and it also lends a lot of credibility to your post and yourself.
The Upgradeware TMC controls the multiplier using dips. You DO NOT NEED an option in the BIOS to change multilplier. The link in the post above doesn't say much about mulitplier adjustment - only FSB. The down side is that it won't adjust a CPU like the one pictured - if the L1's are pitted as above, the TMC won't work. Fortunately most TBred B's and Bartons are not "pitted" Cehck www.upgradeware.com for the lowdown.
Gery
0
Mt_GoatHead Cheezy KnobPflugerville (north of Austin)Icrontian
More expensive than existing unlocking kits AMD XP CPU must be unlocked prior to use
Voltage adjustments must be done from BIOS
Modern motherboards includes all the necessary overclocking features in BIOS
Limited segment of the overclocking community will need this product
I said nothing about the bios at all! I am very familiar with these as I purchased its predecessor 2 years ago that had the dips on the side so removing the CPU wasn't neccessary on my old model. The one I have is currently in use on my wife's ECS K7S5A Pro and a brand new T'bred XP1800 and cheapoman bios. The review I linked only showed a picure of an MSI bios with the option as all the boards they had laying around all had the bios option that this tool replaces on boards that do not have the option.
The latest Bartons and T'breds don't need the laser pitting because they have implemented something different. These where it looks like the traces or right under the surface will blow the whole chip if you put anything conductive across the top and that is how they are now making them tamper proof (not). I don't worry about any of it myself since my board unlocks the multipliers anyway. I was just trying to make sure everyone knew what the product was that you posted about.
Comments
need to do the L1's
fc
On certain durons, sure. I've done it on several 700-1000mhz processors, but this one looks like a crippled Athlon core (looks a bit different from the other 5 durons I've owned).
Taping/covering the other pits is a bit tiresome. I liked the easy unlock of the kit that was being sold (simple pit filler that wasn't superglue/permanent and the conductive grease would just wipe away).
You'll need to fill in the pits (between the L1's) with something - I've used epoxy successfully - but it's a PITA; THEN use conductive compound or the pencil trick. You can also use an Upgradeware XP-TMC to unlock it without modding the CPU.
Gery
You do need to fill the pits.
glaker
As a courtesy to others it is often important to provide a link when mentioning an unusual piece of hardware, a review or something said by someone. I learned this a long time ago and it also lends a lot of credibility to your post and yourself.
Gery
I suggest you read this MODTHEBOX review very carefully! AGAIN if need be.
I said nothing about the bios at all! I am very familiar with these as I purchased its predecessor 2 years ago that had the dips on the side so removing the CPU wasn't neccessary on my old model. The one I have is currently in use on my wife's ECS K7S5A Pro and a brand new T'bred XP1800 and cheapoman bios. The review I linked only showed a picure of an MSI bios with the option as all the boards they had laying around all had the bios option that this tool replaces on boards that do not have the option.
The latest Bartons and T'breds don't need the laser pitting because they have implemented something different. These where it looks like the traces or right under the surface will blow the whole chip if you put anything conductive across the top and that is how they are now making them tamper proof (not). I don't worry about any of it myself since my board unlocks the multipliers anyway. I was just trying to make sure everyone knew what the product was that you posted about.
Gery
It's cool, NP.