Is it possible to run F@h in ancient processors?
EyesOnly
Sweden New
I want to run fah on a pentium1 processor. What should i do to get it running as fast as possible without errors. And don't tell me to get a new comp because if i could afford it i would do it in a heartbeat but for now i'm stuck with this.
This comp will do nothing but fold as i have a p2 for other stuff. And i would like to get my p2 folding as well since it has done it before then stopped. Not sure why.
This comp will do nothing but fold as i have a p2 for other stuff. And i would like to get my p2 folding as well since it has done it before then stopped. Not sure why.
0
Comments
Also don't bother using the -forceasm as the chip doesn't support any advanced features.
NS
Mind you, it's about 1 gro WU a week.
At least it's something. Haven't installed it yet but will let you now soon how it goes. Thanks t1rhino your post made me more confident about doing this. Glad i'm not the only one with a slow comp.
I have in my arsenal a couple of dogs, but they do fold, and they do generate points, and they do further the goals of the project.. A celly 333, and a p166.. EyesOnly, it's worth it, but make sure they are getting genomes only, as they will not return the tinkers or gromacs within the allotted time.
~Cyrix
I get my electricity free so if I had an older machine to dedicate to folding (even at one wu every 10 days) it'd still be worth it to just get that little bit of boost to my score
>: no port for atari? what gives man?
>: no port for atari? what gives man?
My computers refuse to talk to each other so the network isn't working. :sad2: Will fix it asap then start folding.
Of course EM3 will start over when the computer is turned off.
when i started the comp it found the harddrive but the comp could not connect to the internet when windows was loaded. my other comp was able to connect to the second one with realVNC and control it and nothing was wrong at this side. i reinstalled all network drivers and protocolls, ran the setup small office network or Lan wizard than gave up when it didn't work.
i really don't feel like reinstalling win98 again just so i can wait 2 weeks before i finish a wu, and that's only if i run it 24\7, so i'm hoping that you will find my expertise in computers valuable in other parts in this site. i might cool down during the night before i log on here again so if you can talk me into continiu folding i might. But i still why the network only works sometimes. Sorry for the long post.
-drasnor
The cpu speed is giving me a headache. When i set it to what i thought was 166 mhz it according to Em3 ran at 89 mhz. When i set it to 150 mhz it ran at 89 mhz. This morning when i set it to 133 mhz it ran at 189 mhz. :confused2 :confused2
BTW do genomes count as wu's in the stats because i'm running that now.
AFAIK Genomes count toward your WU total.
-drasnor
processor family: 5
model: 2
stepping: c
It also said that it was an genuin intel pentium which it is. i can't acces the harddrive on the other computer though so i can't use CPU-Z. I don't now what's wrong. The computer ran fine for many hours but some hours ago realvnc crashed. i restarted it but couldn't connect to the folding comp. After plugging in the monitor i noticed that it had frozen and that the harddrive activity led shone all the time. Upon reboting it stopped after post and said that the harddrive was loast asking me to insert a disk.
I've tried several reboots without succes. please help.
If you're somewhat Linux competent and you can get it to boot from a CD-ROM, try booting it with a Knoppix CD.
BTW, this is happening to one of my other older machines, but I can't work on it at the moment since it's about 100 miles away right now.
-drasnor
I can't fold with this computer because i use it to much so there's no free power to use for folding. oh well thanks for the help anyway.
*EyesOnly heads for the babes thread while it's still there*
http://www.scsifaq.com
-drasnor
I don't think i know but thanks for the cheering up. I'll have a look at the faq tomorrow.
Here how to do it. Follow the guidelines given in this forum as usual. I used firedaemon to run the nononsens commandline client of fah as a service and electron microscope (or em3) to monitor it. To avoid biting your nails of wondering if it will finish before the deadline fold as genome@home (or gah) because it doesn't have any deadlines but the points you get still counts as regular points. Or so i've been told. Will know for sure in a couple of days.
Now the important part. The one that i failed back in november. Don't look at em3 every 30 minutes or so wondering why it isn't moving much (it's just slow and you're slowing it down even more by forcing it to show the stats all the time) and don't worry if you get a "Time per frame problem". You get it because em3 thinks that you will finish in a certain time but then you use the computer or em3 misscalculated the time and finds that the frame isn't finished. I thought that i had a serious problem on my hands and the fact that i then used an even slower P1 instead of the P2 i'm using now lead me to believe that folding is impossible on slow computers. That is not the case.
Whenever you get a time per frame problem it simply means that em3 can't tell you when the frame will be finished BUT FAH IS WORKING JUST FINE. Just look at fah:s log in em3 and you'll see that it's still doing it's thing even though em3 appears to be halted. It will show something like
[07:22:23] [SPG] Designing protein sequence 13 of 30
[07:43:14] [SPG] 10.0
[08:10:29] [SPG] 20.0
[08:29:37] [SPG] 30.0
[08:48:13] [SPG] 40.0
[09:11:28] [SPG] 50.0
[09:46:48] [SPG] 60.0
[10:23:00] [SPG] 70.0
[11:07:58] [SPG] 80.0
[11:47:46] [SPG] 90.0
[12:20:40] [SPG] 100.0
[12:20:40] [SPG] Writing current.xyz
[12:20:42] [SPG] Sequence 13 completed:
and then move on to the next frame. I have no idea what SPG means but it appears to be what percents of the frame that has been finished. That log entry was from the last frame my computer finished. It's currently working itself through frame 14 of 30 but unless i rap this up it will finish the wu before i'm finished typing.
In favor of em3 would be that it does "learn" when a frame will be finished after a couple of frames but sometimes failes completely. Yesterday a frame in em3 finished in about a minute but then i got that problem again. Hours later the frame was finished in fah and em3 moved on to the next.
I really wish that i hadn't had to write this but those few who folds in this forum and have slow machines don't use them as much as i do and don't have any problems like this. Therefor i had to discover this for myself. Hopefully this can make others thinking about folding sure that they can fold but not expect many wu:s per week or even month.
Oh and one last thing. You might be wondering if my computer is slower now. The answer is NO. I do not even notice that fah is running. Sure the cpu is running at 100 % and some ram is used but not so much that it's slowing things down. I notice that there are many member that has a few points but doesn't appear to be folding because the points isn't increasing. Well if you're not folding because you think that your computer will be slow or that it can't be done you're wrong. It does take a while to set up but then you can just forget about it. As long as you can boot and run programs you can fold.
Sorry for the long post. If i think of something else i'll add it.
Now, when are you getting the fancy Folding sig?
BTW i must have messed up somewhere because the fahlog says that it's working on frame 14 of 30 but em2 says that i'm on 12 of 30. It must have missed a frame somewhere. Well at least fah is working even though the monitoring is off a bit. I'll try FAH LogStats and see if it's any good. Maybe it can fix this.