Brand New To Overclocking

TheJackal1988TheJackal1988
edited December 2004 in Hardware
I am planning on making an overclocking system. Here are the specs
Case: Koolance PC2-650BU (with CPU-300-H06 cooler and GPU-180-L06 Mobo cooler)
Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Edition
Processor: AMD 64 3000+ 939pin Winchester Core 1.8ghz stock
RAM: 1gb Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2PT 1GB DDR400 XMS3200 Dual-Channel Memory w/Platinum Heat Spreader
Video Card: ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256mb
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE WD1200JD 120GB Serial ATA 7200RPM Hard Drive w/8MB Buffer
DVD Drive: NEC ND-3500A 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Bare Drive
OS: XP Home

Obviously it is a pre-setup liquid cooled system, but I want to know how good this PC would be. I hear you can get the 3000+ Winchester to 2.6ghz+ stable. Any tips would be nice, I am trying to keep the price around 1000 (I already have the video card) and as of right now it's $1008.98 for this system.

Thanks,
The Jackal

Comments

  • TheJackal1988TheJackal1988
    edited December 2004
    Anyone? Can Someone help me? :help:
  • Nive11enNive11en Europe
    edited December 2004
    This PC will obviously be very good. Did you research on how well your ram will overclock though? Find some reviews, comments, etc about it. Since you want to overclock then you'll want to oc the ram. As far as I know Corsair is very good but do some research on that specific model. Example: if you find out your ram usually clocks to 250MHz (500) you might want to try one of those OCZ's that do up to 300MHz (600).

    Your pc with or without oc'ing is just great.
  • TheJackal1988TheJackal1988
    edited December 2004
    What company is best for Overclocking RAM? I just need 1gb (512x2)
  • airoh69airoh69
    edited December 2004
    OCZ all the way. This ram rock. Try the OCZ platinum extreme performance.
  • TheJackal1988TheJackal1988
    edited December 2004
    If I had to choose from Kingston or Corsair which would I choose?
  • TheJackal1988TheJackal1988
    edited December 2004
    And to save more money, should I drop to 512?
  • lordbeanlordbean Ontario, Canada
    edited December 2004
    If you intend to use the system for games, stick to 1GB. 512MB isn't enough for modern games to run without significant HD use mid-game.
  • adhamadham Ft Bragg, NC
    edited December 2004
    If you want RAM that guarantees to be good for overclocking, you just need to get PC4000 or higher. Corsair and Kingston both make good DDR500 memory. I have used both the Corsair XMS4000 Pro, and the Kinston HyperX PC4000, and they both worked great. However, they are both rated as 3-4-4-8 timings. With the Corsair I can run it at 2-3-3-6 up to 220Mhz. With the Kingston I Could never get it running at lower than Cas 3, so IMO the corsair is the better memory. I have never had OCZ memory so I can't comment on it at all. The memory you planned on buying could oc nicely too, but no guarantees. It is all a tradeoff of bandwidth and latency, and I personally have gotten better results with low latency at DDR400 than with the higher bandwidth, and I have 2 Athlon 64 systems. I would definitely go with the gig of memory if you can afford it now, you'll want more later anyway. Sorry for the long post, hope it helps.
  • TheJackal1988TheJackal1988
    edited December 2004
    Not sure if that RAM would work with my mobo, I think it only goes to DDR400. Now I have a different question, what if I bought a case, and put the Exos-AL Koolance system in it? Is that a good idea?
    Case would be the NZXT Nemesis case, (not the elite because there would be no room for the Exos system on top)
  • adhamadham Ft Bragg, NC
    edited December 2004
    The RAM will work with any mobo that supports ddr400. When you overclock the fsb (htt on athlon 64's) the memory generally overclocks at the same rate. If the memory will only run at ddr400 (which isn't the case with the mobo you plan to use) then higher speed ddr will just clock down to ddr400. As far as the case/cooling question, I think that is really a matter of preference. I have used the Koolance Exos, but that is the only water cooled system I have ever used. It is a great setup, but I don't know if a pre-built case/liquid cooled setup is better. You could probably get pretty good oc mileage with that cpu on a high end heatsink/fan combo.....that would save you some serious dough. I have a 3500+ Newcastle and I got a 200Mhz OC on air without breaking a sweat. The 3000+ Winchester has some headroom.
  • SSR_06SSR_06 Iowa
    edited December 2004
    OCZ is great, the rev 2 platinum sereis can get some nice clocks off of it. i got 250mhz easily out of my friends system. 3-3-3-8 timings too. i know the ram can clock higher than that. i just havn't pushed it.
  • TheJackal1988TheJackal1988
    edited December 2004
    Allright, now it's a matter of money, my current PC is a HP Pavilion 751x, Athlon XP 2000+ 1.6ghz, 60gbHDD, DVDBURNER 4-6X I think, CD-ROM, and I think it's a GeForce 2 Mx440 or something like that with 64mb, do you think I could get any money for it?
  • adhamadham Ft Bragg, NC
    edited December 2004
    I would be willing to bet that you could get something for it. Your best bet would probably be to part it out. You could really save some money by pulling the hard drive and DVD burner out and using them in your new rig temporarily. Just a thought.
  • TheJackal1988TheJackal1988
    edited December 2004
    60gb isn't enough for me, I need more space, and I wanted the Dual-Layer burner, I mean I could go for a 100gb, and use my current hard-drive, but I wanted something better.
  • TheJackal1988TheJackal1988
    edited December 2004
    should I go with a Mobile 3000+ 754Pin or a 939 Winchester 3000+?
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