Want 2 Use 2 Wireless routers on same home network

edited November 2005 in Science & Tech
Hi there I have been searching for days before I try

this...

Well I have a Network Everywhere Model NWR40B

2.4aGHz 4 port cable/dsl Router 802.11b Wireless.

This was a pain to set up home PC and Laptop with

some still minor issues of ip conflics etc...as well

as trying to secure is nearly impossible which I am

sure I am missing information somewhere.

Anyways...

So...the Network Everywhere Model NWR40B 2.4aGHz 4

port cable/dsl Router 802.11b Wireless and The other

Wireless is a GigaFast Model number WF719-CAPR

G-Broadband 802.11b/g router.

I want to use the GigaFast first in line from the

Cable modem (So I can get faster speed on laptop that

will be in the house) and hard wire (Run the Ethernet

Cable from this one as well to the Network Everywhere

one in the garage where I don't get a strong enough

signal from the house when I have the laptop out here

as well or in the backyard to. I can deal with the B

one outside since slower as I am not outside with the

Laptop to often but nice to have my area covered by a

decent signal while out 40-50' from the Wireless

Router situated in the center of the house. Also

would like to get rid of this IP conflict error when

both computers are on and secure the wireless.

SORRY for asking but I always research things first

but of course there is nothing in the 2 page manuals

you get as well as I am really having a hard time

both understanding how to do this as well as finding

anything to relate to this. If I do it's not in

english (well not english enough for me to

understand...lol) I have been on computers built

repaired etc...for 20 years but all that fun stuff

when it comes to networking I am...YES...A dummy at

at...BUT I am really trying to figure learn and

understand...

MANY THANKS
STBEAR007

Comments

  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited October 2005
    First I'd disconnect the B router and get your G set up so that it's working propperly with no IP conflicts. There are two ways to go about resolving them the first is set the router to hand out IP's to the devices connecting to it and also make sure the devices are set to DHCP. The other way is to statically set the Device IP's to a number below the DHCP scope....

    So now what does that mean? Your router should have a setting on it that tells it how many DHCP ip's it can hand out and at what number they start. Usually your router by default (and your network as well) will have a base Ip of 192.168.0.x (x being different for every device hooking up). Your router will normally be .1 then you can start assinging computers at whatever number you want. The router will also probalby have a setting saying that it starts it's DHCP range at .100+. So if you are using static IP's on your computer then they have to be below the .100 range.

    Now as for your security not sure normally you turn WPA on or WDS on the router it generates a key and you add that key to your computer.

    As for getting the second wireless router working. You have to make sure that it's not acting as a gateway otherwise it'll constantly be causing conflicts with your primary router. It's got to act just as an Access point. The problem there is that not all Routers can be told to act as just Access points. Even ones that are I've had issues with where they refuse to do so.

    The other conflict can be between different brands of different wireless devices.
  • BLuKnightBLuKnight Lehi, UT Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    Wireless Networking is fun and frustrating. You're going to need to get your Wireless Routers configured with the same settings. They should have the same SSID, WEP Security settings and so forth. The only difference you want is that the Channel should be different by at least 5. For instance, if I'm running 2 wireless routers, I may run them on 4 and 9. This way, the radios don't conflict. (I really don't want to get into sine and cosine curves. If you want to learn more, I'd suggest you google it.) One program I'd highly recommend is Network Stumbler. It's free and will show you other Wireless Networks in your area as well as the channel they run on. Use that so you can set up your routers that your laptop won't have to deal with much interference.

    I'd also recommend that you designate one as the DHCP server and the other should have DHCP turned off. You can use a standard cable (not crossover) to connect from a Lan port of the primary router to the secondary router. (Don't plug into the WAN port of the second router. [Someone correct me if I'm wrong.]). This makes networking easier for running shared devices and folders.

    Make sure you write down the IP addresses of both Wireless routers. Stick with a good numbering scheme. Stick with 192.168.x.x. Come up with something unique for the third number, and then put your routers with IP addresses that are easy to remember. Then set your DHCP range a bit higher up.

    IE:

    192.168.50.1 - Primary Router
    192.168.50.2 - Secondary Router
    192.168.50.50 - 100: DHCP Range

    Configure your laptop to work with the primary router. Then move to the garage. It should automatically switch to the other router without a problem. Computers naturally choose the stronger/faster connection. That's why when you're wired in, the laptop will pick the wired connection over the wireless. It's the same thing with the wireless. It will use the stronger Wireless Router. If for some reason it works on one router but you can't connect to the second, double check your settings. As I said before, the security settings should be identical.

    Have fun.
  • BLuKnightBLuKnight Lehi, UT Icrontian
    edited October 2005
    Dang kryyst, you're just too fast for me. :)
  • edited October 2005
    Thank You VERY VERY MUCH...for the info as I will try all this a day this week when I get the chance...Have a 6 month old and work so Very Busy...lol.

    STBEAR007
  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited October 2005
    BLuKnight wrote:
    Dang kryyst, you're just too fast for me. :)


    It's these early mornings I'm forced to work.
  • edited November 2005
    I got mine to work using a hub with the 2 routers.I came out of the Modem to the hub and then came out of the hub to each router seperately.Both routers get differently assigned external ips! One is a dhcp and I set the ip adresses manually on the other one so I can port forward.Works like a charm
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