Cheap Laser Printers

CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
edited November 2003 in Trading Post
I saw some people talking about buying laser printers on the cheap. Well, I print a lot of documents and such and things that I like to keep records of, and right now I'm using a Lexmark inkjet printer which is expensive to keep buying cartridges for.

Anyone know of a good/older Laser printer I should look at either on some tech related online sale outlets or through ebay? I know nothing about laser printers, whats a good price, or some older models that will work good and I can aquire cheap.

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  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited November 2003
    You got 1 hr and 45 Minutes

    I can't tell you if it's good or not, but it's made by xerox. Be sure to read the product description.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    You can get the HP Laserjet 4L for like £10 on eBay if you want something just to print text and vector graphics, but not images or whaever as it is only 300dpi.

    I would personally stick with HP as they are very good on the support front (and quality).

    To be honest, that printer for $50 doesn't look worth it, as it looks older than the 4L (4L supports PCL5e). If you want to print images at all but still really cheap then look at the rest of the other HP LJ 4 series as they support 600x600dpi.

    NS
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I got a brand new HP LaserJet 1200 for $199. Can't beat it... Office depot. 600dpi.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Samsung 1650, 1250N, 1430. All decent, all 600 DPI and 12 PPM or faster, cartridges last one heck of a lot longer than the HP ones do and are chaeper, things are also Energy Star compliant and sleep with about a 45 second or less wakeup and ZERO data drops on USB or Parallel connections. Also decent warranties. http://www.techonweb.com/ and other places have them and cartridges for them. My 1210 runs out about 2800 pages for a $51.00 dollar shipped integral (toner, developer, drum all in cartrdige, fuser is only major thing not replaced with a cartrdige change of the PRINTING subsystem other than LASER itself) cartridge at 600 DPI, and has a toner save mode that works fine. I have dumped 15,000+ pages of generic Xerographic copy paper (about $18.00 per CASE of 5,000 sheets) through it in 8.5 months-- that is under its rated monthly duty cycle as the thnig runs cool though it does HUM some, and can resume from running out of paper and being refilled automaticly.

    VERY good basic printer, and the cartridges are designed so precisely to spec that they ship AIR or ground untaped at all and have never leaked a tiny spot of toner on me inside or outside printer or in bag. When I turn off the toner saver, a power cycle of printer, swinging down and forward of front of case with printer off, and slight side to side shaking of the cartridge out of case gets me nice neat clean printout for another 250-300 pages beyond the rated 2500 pages, as the toner saver is THAT effective at what it does and the printer runs cooler than an HP also. One thing, go by overall output per cart over long term, first cart is about 2/3 to 3/4 full and is STATED to be a starter cartridge.

    John.
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited November 2003
    HP LaserJet 4000 series. Great little printers that go cheaply on E-Bay.ca.

    I just picked up the 4000TN with JetDirect (IP Printing) support for $100 CDN. :)
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I added a 64mb SODIMM to my printer for $30 that gave me a total of 72mb of RAM - the thing RIPs like a charm.. very quick.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Prime, I have to put lpd in STREAM mode or he Samsung pauses and waits between pages on a USB connect. Might have something to do with a USB 1.1 connect feeding GDI data faster than the Linux\CUPS\LPD set can calulate it, though. Oh, it runs Postscript as that is Linux's native internal also, Linux converts for me via the driver.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Ageek had this to say
    cartridges last one heck of a lot longer than the HP ones do and are chaeper,nMy 1210 runs out about 2800 pages for a $51.00 dollar shipped integral (toner, developer, drum all in cartrdige, fuser is only major thing not replaced with a cartrdige change of the PRINTING subsystem other than LASER itself)

    Even the oldest LaserJets use 3500 or 6000 page toners, and the new ones all use 6000, 10000, or 15000 page toners.

    NS
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I think he was referring to the personal LJ series, which is in direct competition with the Samsung he owns.

    BTW: That Samsung is a killer deal, even purchased new.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Yes, given REASONABLE toner use. My older one has the SMALLEST cartridge of all the Samsungs. I am looking at an ML-1710 for a future printer, or a ML-1750. What I kept running into with HP, from the HP-III series on, was the replacement costs for fuser assemblies. One friend had the fuser WIRE break on an older HP after deforming and bending. He also had a bunch of toner gather on a roller that was designed to roll on the page, but it gathered in a clump and got neatly FUSED to the roller. I have never had that happen with a Samsung, and have both brands apart and repaired HPs. When HP starts with volume pricing and quality simultaneously and does both more agressively, I will rethink. Until then I just say no to thier pricing.

    Right now HP is pricing too much on brand rep for my tastes. I also run more than just Windows and HP drivers that are excellent for HP lasers are not as available as the Samsung drivers, which had a Linux driver right on the CD. With the Samsung, I just flip the USB switch, either Windows or Linux prints equally well to the Samsung. that may not be a benefit in this case, is here for those who might read this later.

    For Enterprise and large workgroup, definitely HP. For end users, would have to say Samsung or a low-end HP and BABY the HP's power input requirements. The Samsung seems more resilient as to voltage variations also, and the cartridge is sealed so well that humidity does not seem to affect printing or fusing. It also runs COOLER than the HP internally. I have made a bunch of transparencies on it, and these were NOT laser transparency sheets used (try ink jet sheets, which even the Canon copier (personal) does not like very well if the results bear my theory out. Samsung also heat vented better, there are at least three fans in the thing to vent fuser heat and the power supply. Not bad for a company mostly know in the far east and Europe up to now as far as laser and LCDs go-- my father had a Samsung computer in 1988, thing stayed in service 5 years and was used a LOT for legal work and the monitor was in service until 2003 and still did as well as ever until then. So, lesser know yes, but not known for shoddy goods. Samsung HDs are not comparable to major vendors, lesser lifecycle, but better than DeathStars and Fujitsus for the most part. So, they HAVE a name that is not so majorly known here in US, but make decent products overall. And they WANT to be known here, so are pricing more aggressively than HP right now.

    John.
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