A Graphic Example on how to set flags for Folding @ Home

CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
edited March 2004 in Folding@Home
Well I see people trying to explain this on here a lot and I figure it's a lot easier to explain how to do it with a graphic..I haven't seen one around here, but if there has been, let me know.

Well anyway, I made this when explaining to some of my folding friends who fold under my username for me so they knew how to do it easily, I figured other people could use this when explaining.

<img src="http://www.purposelessproductions.com/misc/fahguide.jpg"&gt;

Note: I used the FAH4 beta graphical version to do the graphic, but, same holds true for any version of FAH, just edit the shortcut as demonstrated above.


Edited: for more l33t look with S-M logo and a cleaner looking screenshot

Comments

  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    bump ...good idea can you make one for the FAH4 also?
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    GREAT idea... One of those "why didn't I think of that" things.... Yuo get teh "S" for sticky :)
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    guess I'll do up some more professional ones now that it's stickied, brb!
  • pythagoraspythagoras
    edited November 2003
    Just a note that forceasm on AMD processors will engage 3dnow!, you need forceSSE for sse instruction sets, and its case sensitive. Thats for the v4 pre release version.

    Regards

    John.
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    oh, I thought the -forceasm would enable them selectively depending on what type of processor you were running and what extensions it could support?
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    for FAH4Console Prerelease1 on Intel you don't need any flags and you get Extra SSE boost! automatically.
    on AMD automatically you get Extra 3DNow boost! automatically and add -forceSSE and you get Extra SSE boost! instead.

    Then of course the -admethods still apply.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I run my Intels similar to this ...notice only the -admethods flag
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    and AMD's like this ...and that's how I get "Extra SSE boost!" on all my machines. However ...lately I've been overclocking the new AMD barton at home so I've cut back on the SSE for now.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I just switched from 3.25Beta to the 4.00-Console-Pre1 and found that I couldn't do the -advmethods -forescam on the new console or I would get a warning box with only an OK option. As soon as I clicked OK the F@H cliens would close. I just changed it to what csimon showed above with -advmethods -forceSSE and it is working fine so far. Is there any reason not to run it this way since I just changed processors from a 2100 mto a Barton? What's the scoop on all this?
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I also forgot, do I want to set the client type to Genome only?
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited November 2003
    No the Barton will do much more work with gromacs. -advmethods overrides anything you enter such as FAH, GAH, or no-pref. I always set it to FAH anyway.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    OK, it worked fine till after the 3rd WU. Then it wouldn't get a new work packet and after 48 attempts I removed the shortcut and it automaticly D/L'ed a new core and has worked fine since. So what's up with that??? What should I be doing differently?
  • HawkHawk Fla Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Ok, Now I'm confused. I had to go back to the 3.25 beta because my pc was crashing like crazy. No matter what I did. I just bought a HP psc 2410xi photosmart all in one printer,fax etc, and after I loaded the software and run my hp monitoring for faxes and the 4.0 folding--they don't play well together. So, Do I add -advmethods -forceasm or -advmethods -forceSSE ? And is there a space between -advmethods^-forceasm?
    Sorry for the dumb questions, but I want to get it running right and as fast as it can go. Oh, BTW I'm running AMD's.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    -advmethods "space" -forcesse
  • HawkHawk Fla Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Thank you very much csimon, Appreciate the help. I'll make sure it's set on both boxes.
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited March 2004
    Hawk wrote:
    Ok, Now I'm confused. I had to go back to the 3.25 beta because my pc was crashing like crazy. No matter what I did. I just bought a HP psc 2410xi photosmart all in one printer,fax etc, and after I loaded the software and run my hp monitoring for faxes and the 4.0 folding--they don't play well together. So, Do I add -advmethods -forceasm or -advmethods -forceSSE ? And is there a space between -advmethods^-forceasm?
    Sorry for the dumb questions, but I want to get it running right and as fast as it can go. Oh, BTW I'm running AMD's.

    Make sure you have the latest version of the software and update your printer BIOS(?). The same instability thing happened to me after I got my HP 6110 (similar machine). After the updates everything was fine.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited March 2004
    mtgoat wrote:
    I just switched from 3.25Beta to the 4.00-Console-Pre1 and found that I couldn't do the -advmethods -forescam on the new console or I would get a warning box with only an OK option. As soon as I clicked OK the F@H cliens would close. I just changed it to what csimon showed above with -advmethods -forceSSE and it is working fine so far. Is there any reason not to run it this way since I just changed processors from a 2100 mto a Barton? What's the scoop on all this?

    The others are right, though my Barton 2500+ runs with -forcesse -forceasm -advmethods -verbosity 9 (space between y and 9) and runs super-fine. It actually does better this way that with just -forcesse -advmethods -verbosity 9 OR with -forceasm -advmethods -verbosity 9. I will wanr you, that when OCing or tight on RAM, the first switch to make folding unstable on a Barton appears to be the -forceasm switch, sot hat might be wassup with your problem, though. As Marc mentioned, the switches he gave are safer for a Barton, but if you can run all of them and get stability, the Barton WILL fold faster with all three than with just the combo he gave. Looks like you hit an instability with your Barton and the -forceasm switch. Figure on a Barton, WU 814 is gonna be the best test of switch stability on a Barton box-- twhen my box went unstable with an 814, I reworked timings and voltages and it went stable with same switching I say to use.

    Basically, main thing I HAD to do was force AGP\PCI to stock base rates, FIXED, and limit the OC of the RAM separate from the CPU OC. Also, I found that I had to LOWER voltages, once the board thought it had a faster Barton, it changed the auto-default for voltages in a way that led the CPU to overheat too much. Closest to actual voltage on Barton I have right now is 1.66 Vcc, the 2500 is running at very close to 2 GHz true right now (multiplier is 12, base is 167, CPU to RAM is set 4:5 with DDR333 Corsair CMX running at ~200 and slightly OC'd). I SET it to 1.625, this PSU is running voltages a bit stange and pumped the CPU voltage a tib. In my case, also had to UNDERVOLTAGE the RAM on this board, 2.6 V for RAM. Board is not a high-end OCing board, it is a somewhat staid MSI KT4VL.

    Barton on XP is hyper-sensitive to video glitches-- especially when under full load.... Once I got the video timings stable(including RAM used to buffer video), the rest took to folding like a duck to a pond WITHOUT a snapping turtle in it. Lets say today was not very warm (high 76 F), effectiveness averaged .983 (+ a tiny tib (aka bit))....

    John D.
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