Changing ISP's, can I reuse former ISP modem/router?

adarryladarryl No Man Stands So Tall As When He Stoops To Help a Child. Icrontian
edited August 2007 in Science & Tech
Right now, I am on SDSL with an ISP that required me to purchase an SDSL modem/router (8 port). (In other words, I own the thing now) It is a Netopia R7100-C. However, to get better speeds, I am now changing to a new ISP who is leasing me a Linx 1 port ADSL modem per their contract. In the past, when I went with a single port DSL modem, I had to also use a router (4 port) to connect my other PC's. Well, now my other PC's are 7 in number plus a laptop. (Don't ask why I have 8 pc's when only two of us live here). Anyway, it is clear the new ISP's ADSL modem can't accommodate 8 PC's without a router. Can I reconfigure my former ISP's 8 port SDSL modem/router to work with my new ISP's ADSL service? (There is no CD software installation required, btw) If I can't do this, what would you recommend in order to use the new 1-port ADSL modem with our 8 PC's? Please be specific if you have other hardware recommendations; I am kind of out of my element here trying to get 8 PC's on-line when I only have one port with the new modem. Also, if I can reuse the 8-port SDSL modem, will it matter if it is connected to an ADSL service? THANKS for the help!!

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  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2007
    Ok, here you go.

    Use your new ISP's modem. Get yourself a decent router, most of the consumer ones come with a built in 4 port switch. The buy an 8 or 12 port switch. They usually cost around $50 if I remember correctly. I'm sure you can get a good one cheaper.

    Here is how your network will go: Modem --> Router --> Switch

    And all you have to do is plug the switch into one of the router's switch's ports. If you get an 8 port switch you'll have 10 usable ports in all.
  • adarryladarryl No Man Stands So Tall As When He Stoops To Help a Child. Icrontian
    edited August 2007
    Thanks for your reply! So I can't reuse the Netopia? Also, I am fuzzy on the routers vs. switches. I also have a Linksys BEFSR41 v.2 4-port router. So if I took the 1-port DSL modem and ran it to my Linksys router, that would give me 4 ports to pick up 3 pc's and a switch to which I could connect the remaining 5 PC's, correct? Or is it better to to pull off of one port from my 4-port router and route it to at least a 9 port switch to which I could connect 8 PC's recognizing I lose one switch port to make connection with the router? Not sure if I am making sense here, but do you get what I am asking? TIA!
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2007
    Ok. If you are going from synchrous DSL (both streams the same speed) to asynchrous dsl (down stream faster than up stream) then I don't think you can, but I'm not a DSL tech.

    Lemme tell you a little bit about routers and switches. a basic commercial router will have two ports, three maybe. WAN, LAN and maybe DMZ. The routers you buy in stores are just scaled down versions with a 4 port switch integrated into it. In the enterprise setting you would have your router hooked up to your switch and they are independent pieces of hardware.

    So what you can do is daisy chain a switch onto your router and it will work much in the same way. So it takes one port to interlink the two, so you loose one off of the router, and one off of the switch. That leaves 3 and 7, or 10 in all that are available for use.

    The router itself is just a device that takes care of sending data between two networks. In this case it is your network and the internet (Your ISP's) Routers usually handle DHCP and NAT, which gives you quite a bit of protection and acts as a hardware firewall.
  • adarryladarryl No Man Stands So Tall As When He Stoops To Help a Child. Icrontian
    edited August 2007
    Got it! Excellent info ABF! Much appreciated!!!

    Still not sure if an SDSL router is compatible with ADSL but would like to know.
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited August 2007
    routers are routers. To a point. If it is a linksys router it will work. If I remember right I think DSL customers have to login don't they? You'll probably just have to change that info inside the router.

    and you're welcome for the info. I don't make it out of the pub very much (I think I'm a little bit crazy) I've told myself I was gonna venture out and actually help some people every once in a while. Stop by the pub and watch me make a fool of myself sometime.
  • GrayFoxGrayFox /dev/urandom Member
    edited August 2007
    You will need a modem that supports g.lite and d.dmg. You also probably will need to set the vci/vpi (my isp is 35/0) if you want to use your current modem assuming it supports g.lite and g.dmt.

    Also for your router you should just beable to use pppoe.
  • adarryladarryl No Man Stands So Tall As When He Stoops To Help a Child. Icrontian
    edited August 2007
    RE: "You will need a modem that supports g.lite and d.dmg. You also probably will need to set the vci/vpi (my isp is 35/0) if you want to use your current modem assuming it supports g.lite and g.dmt."

    Interesting. I think I will put a switch and my router together as suggested by ABF, but I will have to do some serious research on my Netopia modem to see if it meets those specs, GrayFox! Thanks for the info!
  • GrayFoxGrayFox /dev/urandom Member
    edited August 2007
    No problem glad to help :thumbsup:
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