Can anyone recommend....

CreepCreep Hell Icrontian
edited November 2003 in Hardware
A good Intel Board? I've never did anything intel so I'm rather clueless here. I'm looking to upgrade a P4 Celeron (i think) to something that supports DDR and the FSB. The guy that built the PC frist is a retard and I told the person not to let them do it... Just looking for something stable with a good chipset.

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  • ArmoArmo Mr. Nice Guy Is Dead,Only Aqua Remains Member
    edited November 2003
    if you want raw speed, anything with the Canterwood or Springdale chipsets, they support 800Mhz fsb, dual channel ddr

    as usal stay close to the known mobo manf :)
    the canterwood is the fastest of the intel chipsets but being so new they are Intelexpensive
  • edcentricedcentric near Milwaukee, Wisconsin Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    The Springdale, 865, looks to deliver most of the goodies without the top price. The IS-7 has gotten great reviews.
    But then I never touch the stuff myself. And if I do at least I don't inhale.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Yes, that is a good chipset to look for. decent, not one with SATA, so you do not get to pay for SATA. The 875 is for use with SATA and such. Of the Intel boards, an OEM PESV series is decent, but the PEBT is acceptable (I am quoting Intel letter codes for chipsets to look at). Basicly, best South Bridges right now are ICH4 or ICH5-- avoid the older ICH2 as the bus to it is not as highly pumped (South Bridge notes: Note that ICH3s never hit the market, they had to be reworked into a releasable ICH4-- that is where the number skip comes from. ICH5 is STORAGE bus optimized more than the ICH4, ICH4 more balanced for media, ICH5 is thus used for servers more, while workstations best balance overall with an ICH4 for the most part) . You do not need an 800 FSB (pumped speed) processor, they are too highly priced right now. Try a 2.66 GHz 533 FSB (pumped speed), or a 2.8 of similar FSB. Note when I say pumped speed, these are QUAD I\O per cycle FSB busses, thus the base for FSB for an 800 would be set at 200, the 533 would be set at 133 base. RAM is NOT necessarily synchronous to the NB-SB speed on most of these boards, spread spectrum is common and DDR333 with a 533 FSB 2.66 GHz CPU is fairly common config on better boards (RAM is not really in the FSB area, it is instead off the North Bridge and the North Bridges can handle an I\O increase on the RAM I\O lines of about 1.3 versus the NB-SB FSB connects as the SB is not as able to keep up with a 1.3 pump and boards will not post if one is imposed -- bus trace length is also a factor, NB-SB CLOSER TOGETHER is better if you want to OC an Intel box, MUCH better, in which case you have to heat sink both bridges AND FAN the NB and SB most probably) . Intel boards WILL spread spectrum well, but I would not use DDR400 with a 533 FSB CPU\board combo as they will not bus OC to 800, so if you want to use DDR400 you will want a 3GHz CPU or a (IIRC these are available OEM) 2.8 GHz 800 FSB CPU for best cost for bang for buck.

    Perfect match on a board that will NOT support spred spectrum well for an FSB 533 P4 is DDR266, but the Is-7 WILL handle DDR333 with a 533 FSB chipset\CPU combo. IF money is an extreme object thing, get a board which marries an ICH4 to a PE North Bridge.

    John.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    IC7-G, IC7-MAX3 for large wallets.

    IS7 for smaller wallets.

    All Abit, all excellent.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    I'm not knocking anything or making fun, but how do you "upgrade" to a Celeron???
  • CreepCreep Hell Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Well number one I already HAVE the CPU! I guess I didn't make that clear. I simply want to upgrade the mother board because at the moment it is sitting on a biostar crap board that uses old SDRAM.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited November 2003
    An Abit or Asus with an 865 or 875 chipset. I wouldnt stray from one of those 4 boards.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    IS-7. Period. Rest would be too much board for Celeron, CPU would Lag bahind fast RAM. Upper RAM limit, DDR333. TECHNICALLY, your CPU core is the FIRST-GEN P4 (if you bought a Cellie in the past 1.5 years NEW of that speed) core with less L caching than the current P4s. The first Cellies act as a PIII with less cache in terms of real output, the current Cellies are like the 1.8 P4 transitional pack CPU (old socket 423 core, new pinouts on an adapter card to fit the 478 socket, that was the best value when I bought my first P4 CPU) The 800 FSB CPUs are actually P4 core gen 4).

    John.
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