Unable to lboot XP setup with any SATA drives connected.

edited June 2008 in Hardware
Hi all

Here is my specs ;

Gygabyte EP35-DS4 MOBO
Q660 cpu
2GB 800mhz RAM
8800GTS 640mb
160 GB IDE (Boot drive) - NOW DEAD last tuesday RIP all my data stuff
250 GB SATA

Its been running fine since january


My older 160GB IDE drive died two nights ago with a corrupted C partition ( the boot one ). So i went and got a seagate 320GB SATA2 drive. I removed the other drives I had in the system and installed the new one. I put the XP SP2 disk in the IDE DVD drive and setup booted OK. I created a 100GB (C:\)partition and a ~200GB (e:\) partition and went to format c drive to put xp onto. The partition formatted OK but then setup gave a message saying it was unable to load XP onto the selected partion. I pointed it at the other partion but same message. I checked I had it plagged in OK and restarted by removing all partions, and recreating them. No joy

I restarted coputer and now when setup was supposed to boot after POST screen it said this after waiting 10 sec

" Press Any key to boot from CDROM..................Error loading Operating system. "

I have tried all combinations of master slave for the DVD and plugging the SATA drive into all ports, but no joy- I get the same message. I have checked Bios settings. If I unplug the SATA and just boot with xp cd it loads into setup no probs, but as soon as I connect any SATA drive it cant find OS.


The problem is I cant get setup to boot at all with any drives connected to the MOBO, so I cant access any drives at all, cant get to the partitioning stage 0_0 to redo any partitions.

I do have an OEM copy of xp pro, but why would that cause a problem?

My Bios is set to boot from IDE DVD first.

Im not trying to set up any RAID of AHCI

Since the XP CD boots perfectly with no other drives installed, maybe its time to upgrade my 3yo DVD drive to SATA, cause I think there is some undocumented conflicts on the Gygabyte MOBO stopping them from working together. I have seen quite a few of the same fault listed in other forums, but there hasnt been a fix listed yet. Its possible the the dvd is taking too long to spin up, the BIOS is timing-out the BOOT process. I cant find any settings to change this in the bios tho
ARRRGGHH

I did have the IDE HDD (boot) and DVD on the one cable, now i have the dvd only and have tried both cable positions. I have a full copy of XP also- I have just moved house and have to find it again :)

I dont have a floppy drive to load SATA drivers... but I have seen work arounds , and have access to another copm at home.

I was using the ide hard drive as a boot drive, but that died, now i want to used the sata. I dont want to have windoze installed on one big huge partion , cause i never install anything but window and drivers type stuff to the boot drive, and it would be a waste of space. All my other stuff is on another sata 250 GB drive. but there no room on it to create another partion.



Any help would be really appreciated




EDIT



I have gone and bought a SATA dvd drive as my ide one does not open properly and is about 3 years old. No change with a SATA DVD Drive. New DVD boots up setup OK, but it still wont load setup from CD with any other drives connected.

My next step is to connect the new SATA drive to my Fiance's computer to see if the two partions are there and it works OK, and maybe remove the 2 partions. If its a fecked drive and it kills her comp I wont be getting married anytime soon :);)

I have connected the 250 gbyte drive that has 3 patitions on it up and I get "NTLDR is missing" after the POST. So im really confused now... HELP!!

Comments

  • Your-Amish-DaddyYour-Amish-Daddy The heart of Texas
    edited June 2008
    You need your sata drives for your XP install. Go steal a floppy disk and drive from your local nerd, hook it up, put your driver disk in and boot the PC. If you're lucky, it'll start up with the option to make an "F6" floppy. Go through it if it does and present that disk during your XP install.
  • edited June 2008
    @Daddy

    I cant get XP setup to boot off the disk if I have any other drives connected. So I never get to the F6 driver install section. I know the one you mean its right before setup starts copying files.

    Its starting to sound like the MOBO is killed.
  • Your-Amish-DaddyYour-Amish-Daddy The heart of Texas
    edited June 2008
    So what you're saying is; the drive isn't detected?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2008
    He's saying that he's not trying to set it up as AHCI or RAID, and therefore needs no drivers. The installer reads the hard drives, and allows him to install. When he tries to boot, regardless of the hard drive, he can't.
  • edited June 2008
    I took the hard drive back to where I bought it from, they were able to load Windows XP on the drive with no problems. What the tech told me was that even tho Im not trying to setup a Raid or AHCHI array but only a SATA I still need to load the RAID or AHCI drivers off the Gigabyte drive disk. Apparently this is beacause the Intel south bridge chip on the Gigabyte EP35-DS4 MOBO ( IHC9 or something) needs them anyway. SO that would explain why I was able to set up partions and format them initially, but not load XP to or boot from those partions, as XP setup didn't have drivers.

    I dont have a floppy drive so Im goping to try the nLite prgram ppl have mentioned to add the drivers to a burnt copy of the XP install disk. Slipsteaming is called or something similar.

    Thanks for your help so far- I'll post the results here later.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited June 2008
    The tech was just wrong.

    These boards default to IDE legacy mode, which emulates a plain old IDE/parallel drive to the Windows install routine. This mode does not need AHCI/RAID drivers, and is what allowed you to install to the drive in the first place. The fact that you can't boot from it has nothing to do with AHCI drivers, as if they were required, you never would've been able to see or install to the drive at all w/o slipstreaming or a floppy.

    Something else is wrong.
  • Your-Amish-DaddyYour-Amish-Daddy The heart of Texas
    edited June 2008
    My first board with SATA on it required me to load drivers before I could use them in XP, but that was back in 2006 I think.
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