New Texas Law Limits Computer Repair To Licensed Private Investigators

erichblas2005erichblas2005 Your Native TexanHouston,Texas Member
edited July 2008 in Internet & Media
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Austin, Texas—The Institute for Justice—the nation’s leading litigators for entrepreneurs who find their rights violated by the government—opens its new Texas Chapter today by filing a lawsuit against the Texas Private Security Board, a state agency, on behalf of computer repair shops that are being told they need a private investigator’s license to continue solving their customers’ computer problems.

Under the new law enacted in 2007, Texas has put computer repair shops on notice that they had better watch their backs any time they work on a computer. If a computer repair technician without a government-issued private investigator’s license takes any actions that the government deems to be an “investigation,” they may be subject to criminal penalties of up to one year in jail and a $4,000 fine, as well as civil penalties of up to $10,000. The definition of “investigation” is very broad and encompasses many common computer repair tasks.

To get a private investigator’s license, owners of computer repair shops would have to close their business while they either obtained a criminal justice degree or completed a three-year apprenticeship under a licensed P.I.

But the repair shops are not the only ones at risk. The law also criminalizes consumers who knowingly use an unlicensed company to perform any repair that constitutes an investigation in the eyes of the government. Consumers are subject to the same harsh penalties as the repair shops they use: criminal penalties of up to one year in jail and a $4,000 fine, and civil penalties of up to $10,000—just for having their computer repaired by an unlicensed technician.

The newly launched Institute for Justice Texas Chapter (IJ-TX) is challenging the new law under the Texas Constitution by filing a lawsuit in Travis County against the Private Security Board on behalf of Texas computer repair companies and their customers.

Mike Rife, one of the plaintiffs in the suit, operates AustinPCTech, a company he started more than 10 years ago. Rife has hundreds of satisfied customers and his business is thriving. Rife now operates under a cloud of uncertainty about which repairs the government will allow him to perform for his customers.

David Norelid, another plaintiff, is co-owner of Citronix Tech Services in Houston. Norelid started Citronix in Florida before moving to Texas to pursue his degree in information technology management. Norelid said, “If I was required to get a P.I. license to run my business, I’d have to shut my business down.” The flexibility of being an entrepreneur allows him to work full time while going to school.

Rife and Norelid do not doubt their ability to compete with so-called “big box” competitors in the computer repair business. What they cannot compete with is a government-created cartel that demands they close their businesses and complete a three-year apprenticeship under a licensed private investigator to get a state-required license—or risk jail time and large monetary penalties if they continue serving their customers without one.

Thane Hayhurst owns and operates Kiwi Computer Services and iTalent Consulting Group, both in Dallas. Kiwi Computer is a traditional do-it-all computer repair company that Hayhurst has operated in Dallas since 1992. More recently, Hayhurst opened iTalent Consulting, which offers IT outsourcing services to many prominent local businesses. iTalent sends employees on assignments (some lasting for many months) to clients’ businesses where the consultant works to implement on-site computer and IT solutions. Both of Hayhurst’s businesses are impacted by the new law because he and his employees are not licensed private investigators. Hayhurst is worried the government will decide he can no longer offer many of the services he currently provides to his clients. Hayhurst said, “There are thousands of computer contractors performing valuable services for almost every organization in Texas, and this law will hinder their ability to remain gainfully employed.”

Joining the computer repair companies as a plaintiff in this case is consumer Erle Rawlins, who frequently uses independent computer repair shops to keep his Dallas-based real estate buyer agency business running. Rawlins said, “This law is totally unfair. It requires using someone who is more expensive and may not be as good, and it uses government power to limit the number of competitors who are out there. It is bad for consumers and it is bad for entrepreneurs.”

The filing of this case marks the launch of IJ-TX in Austin. Lead attorney on the case is IJ-TX Executive Director Matt Miller. Miller said, “Texas is working hard to bring technology innovators to our state. Yet the government is now telling them they need to get a private investigator’s license if they want to continue working here. That is not an effective strategy to grow our technology talent pool.”

Miller concluded, “It makes no sense to require a computer repairman with 10 or 20 years of experience to get a degree in criminal justice just to continue working in his occupation. This law will drive up the price of computer repair for everyone, and that’s exactly what the private investigations industry wants.”

The Institute for Justice is a public interest law firm that advances a rule of law under which individuals can control their destinies as free and responsible members of society. IJ has additional chapters in Arizona, Minnesota and Washington state. IJ-TX litigates under the state and federal constitutions to reinvigorate economic liberty, preserve property rights, promote educational choice and defend the free flow of information essential to politics and commerce.

Comments

  • RyderRyder Kalamazoo, Mi Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    :eek::eek:

    WTF?

    :wtf: :shakehead :scratch:
  • jaredjared College Station, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    Coming from someone in Texas as well, this will never be practically enforced.
  • erichblas2005erichblas2005 Your Native Texan Houston,Texas Member
    edited July 2008
    Well its just an excuse so they can send there stooges after you.
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    I'm guessing this will be ruled unconstitutional before long. Either that or things found in the course of "unlicensed" repair can't be used as a basis to file criminal charges. Hopefully it'll be the first one.
    Also, I am setting up a repair shop just north of the Texas border.
  • _k_k P-Town, Texas Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    I think nothing will really happen in Texas if you are white, its Texas we only care about non-white people and what they do.
  • jaredjared College Station, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    That makes absolutely no sense.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    _k_ wrote:
    I think nothing will really happen in Texas if you are white, its Texas we only care about non-white people and what they do.

    Yes, obviously. :rolleyes:
  • stoopidstoopid Albany, NY New
    edited July 2008
    I'm not white enough to understand it.
  • WingaWinga Mr South Africa Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    stoopid wrote:
    I'm not white enough to understand it.

    I'm from South Africa where discrimination was an art form and I don't understand it.
  • BuddyJBuddyJ Dept. of Propaganda OKC Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    That's both funny and sad when you think about it Winga.
  • NomadNomad A Small Piece of Hell Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    Winga wrote:
    I'm from South Africa where discrimination was an art form and I don't understand it.

    lol post of the year
  • UPSLynxUPSLynx :KAPPA: Redwood City, CA Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    Everything's bigger in Texas.

    Including the bullcrap.
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    _k_ wrote:
    I think nothing will really happen in Texas if you are white, its Texas we only care about non-white people and what they do.

    I think nothing will really happen in Texas if you are white. It's Texas, we only care about non-white people and what they do.

    Remember kids, punctuation matters.


    Oh yeh, the law is total bull****. I have no doubt in my mind that a lobbyist from the PI industry is behind this.
  • jaredjared College Station, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    rarrrr
  • everyguyeveryguy El Cajon, California
    edited July 2008

    Reading this, it seems that the law is being interpreted to specifically prohibit any effort by a non-PI license holder to discover information about a third party that might be stored on a computer. For example if a parents wanted to know if their daughter was chatting with 50 year old pedophile, or if a company wanted to find out if an employee was managing his Ebay business on company time instead of working. Helping them without a PI license would put you in jail for a year. Although it doesn't apply to computer jobs like installing hard disks or setting up a server, it would still likely be an issue from time to time in any computer repair shop's business.

    I'm wondering that since somebody that secretly installs a rootkit on a computer to turn it into a zombie spam server is a third party, does that mean that tracking down the rootkit, erasing it, and finding out where it came from would be a violation of this law? Because finding spyware and viruses on computers is a major part of the computer repair field.

    I hate laws that restrict freedom like this. Didn't Texas used to be a place where people really cared about freedom?
  • BuddyJBuddyJ Dept. of Propaganda OKC Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    You're probably right. The law seems poorly thought out regarding its reaches. Is the term overbroad? There are too many cases where it doesn't make sense.
  • erichblas2005erichblas2005 Your Native Texan Houston,Texas Member
    edited July 2008
    May be the EFF will help out.
  • drasnordrasnor Starship Operator Hawthorne, CA Icrontian
    edited July 2008
    everyguy wrote:
    Didn't Texas used to be a place where people really cared about freedom?
    Our legislature is pretty corrupt. Google texas and redistricting, texas and "special session", and "tom delay" to get a better feel for this. Nothing our legislature does would surprise me.

    -drasnor :fold:
  • SweetDragonSweetDragon Casselberry, FL Member
    edited July 2008
    I don't think it's right that computer people should have a government license to fix things, but I do have to question this white thing.

    We live in Central Florida, and my husband has been out of work since September '07. He is convinced that he has white male syndrome. He says that means he can't get a job because he is white and has a b.s. degree which makes him over qualified for the minimum wage jobs and not the right color for government jobs. Which I think is a crock of s**t, but a lot of his white friends say this has happened to them and is common here.

    So back to the point....

    If the white man rules in Texas how do I get my husband a job out there and one that pays enough to relocate.
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