Free parental control software?

TimTim Southwest PA Icrontian
edited September 2008 in Science & Tech
I just gave my 12 year old nephew a PC that I rebuilt with Windows XP Home SP3 on it. It's primary use will be for World of Warcraft, but he'll have other things on it too. He's done good in WoW so far, I trained him here at my place, with 2 complete PCs running side by side, and he's got a level 10 Dwarf Hunter and a big brown bear for a combat pet.

Before he's allowed to have internet in his own room, his Dad said I have to put some sort of program on the computer to stop all the porn stuff from getting through. A reasonable request, I think.

Any suggestions on what would be a good FREE program for this? WoW is rated T for Teen, and that's the highest that will be allowed to come in.

Is Smoothwall (Linux) good for this purpose?

Comments

  • Gate28Gate28 Orlando, Florida Icrontian
    edited September 2008
    Heres my opinion on this:

    While keeping his child away from internet 'predators' is very important, I feel that using a parental control program as an excuse for a parent to shirk their responsibilities to teach their children where and what is not safe on the internet. I think its important for a child to know about a bad site and hear why it's bad from a person they trust than for the kid to try and get into the site and be rejected because of a filter their parents put up. He's 12, I think thats old enough to learn the responsibilities of using the Internet.

    Although I see that is is not your choice to put it on the kids computer, so I'll help ya out. AOL has a free one, I dont know how well it works, but its aol and aol is pretty good with security. https://parentalcontrols.aol.com/parconweb2/home/landingPage.jsp?encodedOrigUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fparentalcontrols.aol.com%2Fparconweb2%2Fhome%2FviewMain.do%3FNCID%3Daolcmp00300000002804

    Sorry for the rant, just wanted to make my opinion known >.<
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2008
    Gate28 has a very mature and thoughtful answer, Tim. Make sure dad understands that NO filter is 100% guaranteed. I am an IT expert, I have serious filtering at home, and my kids still accidentally saw porn in a spam email once. The parent has to be fully involved in this, and have 'the conversation' to explain what his child is inevitably going to see.

    That said, Smoothwall is perfect for this, but it requires a separate, dedicated machine, two network cards, and is not for newbies to set up.
  • Your-Amish-DaddyYour-Amish-Daddy The heart of Texas
    edited September 2008
    Gate28 wrote:
    Heres my opinion on this:

    While keeping his child away from internet 'predators' is very important, I feel that using a parental control program as an excuse for a parent to shirk their responsibilities to teach their children where and what is not safe on the internet. I think its important for a child to know about a bad site and hear why it's bad from a person they trust than for the kid to try and get into the site and be rejected because of a filter their parents put up. He's 12, I think thats old enough to learn the responsibilities of using the Internet.

    Although I see that is is not your choice to put it on the kids computer, so I'll help ya out. AOL has a free one, I dont know how well it works, but its aol and aol is pretty good with security. https://parentalcontrols.aol.com/parconweb2/home/landingPage.jsp?encodedOrigUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fparentalcontrols.aol.com%2Fparconweb2%2Fhome%2FviewMain.do%3FNCID%3Daolcmp00300000002804

    Sorry for the rant, just wanted to make my opinion known >.<

    GREAT! Awesome detected in your sector Gate.

    It is always the parent's responsibility to protect the child from the parent's fears and prejudices. But it's also the child's responsibility to use their head and talk to their parent about stuff.
  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited September 2008
    1 easy, yet not overly restrictive (restrictive meaning system crippling) is to set their dns settings to use OpenDNS.org as their dns provider. Then turn on the opendns filters and it does a really good job of preventing most unwanted things from getting through. It's very easy for the parents to manage and they can, if they feel the need see some of the traffic that's going through it as far as blocked sites go. Just make sure that the child doesn't have access to altering the dns settings in my computer by not setting the kid up as full admin rights on that machine.
  • TimTim Southwest PA Icrontian
    edited September 2008
    Thanks, I'll look at the AOL stuff and see what it says.

    My sister just finally got internet in their house. All I know so far is it's DSL. And the modem is in the parents' bedroom, so I got a 75 foot Ethernet cable on eBay and as soon as it gets here I'll take it over to hook up the other computer.

    My nephew's Dad knows nothing about computers, and my sister doesn't know a whole lot more, as far as I know.

    I'll be over there every week or so to check on things, make sure the antivirus programs get run, and other general maintenance on the computers.
  • PreacherPreacher Potomac, MD Icrontian
    edited September 2008
    Tim,
    I use the following software on our three computers at home:

    http://www1.k9webprotection.com/

    I read numerous reviews and tried out K9. While I'm no IT guru, it's been very effective, is highly customizable (allowed research on breast cancer), came highly rated, and amazingly enough is free.

    My kids have neither computers nor TVs in their bedrooms, but we have both in the house. We've taken a middle of the road attitude. We talk to our 13 and 11 year old about porn, racism, sexism, and violence. We give our son significant rights but with those rights goes a reasonable expectation of responsibility. We don't depend wholeheartedly on the filter, but we do utilize it to keep the worst of the internet away.
  • RichDRichD Essex, UK
    edited September 2008
    may also be worth setting up parrental controls in google. You could monitors pages viewed by monitoring cookies and use your firewall to block sites you dont want them to view.

    Also worth adding spybot if you haven't. That will mod the host file and create a list of know sites with security issues. If you try to access them it will redirect you to "page cannot be displayed".
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2008
    Don't feed the shills, please.
  • RichDRichD Essex, UK
    edited September 2008
    Thrax wrote:
    Don't feed the shills, please.

    Huh?
  • Gate28Gate28 Orlando, Florida Icrontian
    edited September 2008
    RichD wrote:
    Huh?

    shill = someone paid by company x to advertise product x on fourms
  • HarudathHarudath Great Britain Icrontian
    edited September 2008
    Shillzles ma nillzles- 10% off if you buy online!
  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited September 2008
    Some good advice here but I think one thing that needs to be said. The more walls you put in front of your kids and the more temptation you put to see what's on the other side, the greater the desire they'll have to see what's on the other side. So while I think it's prudent to put some level of parental controls on board. I think that it's very easy for parents to go over board.

    Then with the discussion of web and key loggers - I gotta wonder, if there isn't a much bigger issue at hand then wanting to protect your kids. That's crossing the line into oppressing your kids and controlling your kids.
  • Your-Amish-DaddyYour-Amish-Daddy The heart of Texas
    edited September 2008
    Yeah, I have to go with that Kryyst. I'm all about protecting innocence from evil, but I kind of wonder...Why do evil in the name of good?

    Sure, if I ever had kids, I wouldn't filter the world for them. They'd be able to see everything that we've done. And I mean everything. Granted I'd be there at their side to explain everything...But I don't believe in nanny software or practices, but I understand their use. We aren't always going to be at their side to help them understand the world. And that is the biggest shame we have wrought.

    Depressing a thought, isn't it?
  • kryystkryyst Ontario, Canada
    edited September 2008
    I have a daughter, she's not old enough yet for me to worry about the net. But that doesn't mean I haven't thought about it. Hell I'm a net admin I think about it all day long.

    I can say this. She'll likely have her own computer, I've got enough to go around, when she's old enough to need her own computer and privacy. I will have it going through OpenDNS (assuming it's still around). I'll have it lightly locked down through their service and that's about all the 'parental guarding' I'll be doing on it. The rest I'll hope to ensure through trust in her good judgment reinforced by helping to educate her on what good judgment is. Sure it's easy for me to say, right now I've got about 6 years before I really have to worry about it. But that's my plan of attack anyway.
  • ZuntarZuntar North Carolina Icrontian
    edited September 2008
    Gate28 has a very mature and thoughtful answer, Tim. Make sure dad understands that NO filter is 100% guaranteed. I am an IT expert, I have serious filtering at home, and my kids still accidentally saw porn in a spam email once. The parent has to be fully involved in this, and have 'the conversation' to explain what his child is inevitably going to see.

    That said, Smoothwall is perfect for this, but it requires a separate, dedicated machine, two network cards, and is not for newbies to set up.

    Can you elaborate on serious filtering please!! :cool:
  • Gate28Gate28 Orlando, Florida Icrontian
    edited September 2008
    Yeah, I have to go with that Kryyst. I'm all about protecting innocence from evil, but I kind of wonder...Why do evil in the name of good?

    Sure, if I ever had kids, I wouldn't filter the world for them. They'd be able to see everything that we've done. And I mean everything. Granted I'd be there at their side to explain everything...But I don't believe in nanny software or practices, but I understand their use. We aren't always going to be at their side to help them understand the world. And that is the biggest shame we have wrought.

    Depressing a thought, isn't it?

    QFT
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2008
    Smoothwall + dansguardian set to "teen" preset. Maybe not THAT serious, but it works to keep bukkake websites off their PCs (for now)
  • HarudathHarudath Great Britain Icrontian
    edited September 2008
    YAD is right, to a certain extent... Young browsers coming across 2 girls 1 cup would probably bring up an issue beyond explanation :tongue:
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