How do I keep "Extra SSE boost" always on?

EQuitoEQuito SoCal, USA
edited December 2003 in Folding@Home
Every time a new unit starts, I get 3DNow instead of SSE.
I have to re-start said unit manually to get SSE to engage again... :confused:

Any ideas? TIA
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  • danball1976danball1976 Wichita Falls, TX
    edited June 2003
    Use -forceasm. When using EMIII, place that in the "Use Extra Lauch Commands" box.
  • EQuitoEQuito SoCal, USA
    edited June 2003
    I'm already using both -advmethods and -forceasm switches.
  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian
    edited June 2003
    download the 3.25 client. It's still beta, but it works fine.

    the beta can be found here
  • EQuitoEQuito SoCal, USA
    edited June 2003
    I'll give that a try, thanks!
    Can I switch cores in the middle of a unit?

    /edit: sorry, I mean 'clients'... :o
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited June 2003
    did not know this :banghead:
    wish the client would just update itself.
  • danball1976danball1976 Wichita Falls, TX
    edited June 2003
    EQuito said
    I'll give that a try, thanks!
    Can I switch cores in the middle of a unit?

    You have to delete the core so that it can download it again, as per the instructions on the F@H website.
  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian
    edited June 2003
    yea, EQuito, you can. However, you may want to make a backup of the entire folder, in case something gets foobared. (And there is no need to change cores)
  • EQuitoEQuito SoCal, USA
    edited June 2003
    danball1976 said
    EQuito said
    I'll give that a try, thanks!
    Can I switch cores in the middle of a unit?

    You have to delete the core so that it can download it again, as per the instructions on the F@H website.
    I meant to say 'clients'.
    If I'm not mistaken 'core 78' is the same for both clients.
  • danball1976danball1976 Wichita Falls, TX
    edited June 2003
    Yeah, the core is the same for both.

    However, I did see that they wanted you to delete that core so it will download it again for some reason.
  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian
    edited June 2003
    Yeah, i saw your edit. I just wanted to clarify for anyone else who may have had the problem :)
  • EQuitoEQuito SoCal, USA
    edited June 2003
    shwaip said
    Yeah, i saw your edit. I just wanted to clarify for anyone else who may have had the problem :)

    Thanks! YGPM
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited June 2003
    For AMD CPUs you must have 3.25 beta and -forceasm to enable SSE optimizations. The only thing different in 3.25 is that 3dnow! is default instead of SSE so you have to use -forceasm. Otherwise is the same client.
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited June 2003
    just redid 6 of my comps to 3.25 and -forceasm

    I had to rename the beta to the regular "FAH3Console.exe" or else EMIII wouldn't pick it up. 30% faster than 3Dnow right :)
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited June 2003
    Thats what I have heard. You should see a noticable difference in frame times.
  • EQuitoEQuito SoCal, USA
    edited June 2003
    mmonnin said
    For AMD CPUs you must have 3.25 beta and -forceasm to enable SSE optimizations. The only thing different in 3.25 is that 3dnow! is default instead of SSE so you have to use -forceasm. Otherwise is the same client.
    hmmm..., if what you say is true, 3.25 isn't gonna work for me either.
    I was using 3.24 with -forceasm and I was getting 'Extra SSE boost' except that it wouldn't default to it when a new unit started.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited June 2003
    It will always stay on with 3.25. After the first one it reverts back to 3dnow! with 3.24.
  • MrBillMrBill Missouri Member
    edited June 2003
    EQuito said

    hmmm..., if what you say is true, 3.25 isn't gonna work for me either.
    I was using 3.24 with -forceasm and I was getting 'Extra SSE boost' except that it wouldn't default to it when a new unit started.

    http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/beta/325-changes.txt
    Folding@Home 3.25 beta
    May 7, 2003
    THIS BETA WILL NOT EXPIRE.
    RECENT CHANGES (Client) - from 3.24 Release:


    3.25 beta (unmarked)
    - If -forceasm is used, then on every execution of the core until the
    client is restarted, SSE optimizations will be used if possible (if
    the chip is an AMD chip, then be default, without the flag, it would
    not be chosen over 3DNow). Prior to this client, this effect would have
    held true only for the first work unit run after starting the client.
    //edit: 3.25 beta can be downloaded here.
  • EQuitoEQuito SoCal, USA
    edited June 2003
    Thanks MrBill but damn!, the wording is ambiguous and very confusing to say the least.

    Let me see if I get this right:

    3.24 w/-forceasm = default to 3DNow with every new unit if AMD CPU is present.

    3.25 w/-forceasm = default to SSE with every new unit not matter what CPU is present.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited June 2003
    The only reason to have 3.25 is if you have an AMD. 3.24 and -forceasm will force SSE for Intels.

    Not really a default but rather forced. By default I mean with no flags it will use so and so optimizations.

    Just use 3.25 and -forceasm and you will get SSE for your AMD.
  • MrBillMrBill Missouri Member
    edited June 2003
    EQuito said
    Thanks MrBill but damn!, the wording is ambiguous and very confusing to say the least.

    Let me see if I get this right:

    3.24 w/-forceasm = default to 3DNow with every new unit if AMD CPU is present.

    3.25 w/-forceasm = default to SSE with every new unit not matter what CPU is present.
    The wording in the changes file is rather confusing. I would say your translation is exactly right. :)
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited June 2003
    also be sure you have the FahCore_78 or later:

    [05:40:00] Folding@home Gromacs Core
    [05:40:00] Version 1.48 (May 7, 2003)
  • EQuitoEQuito SoCal, USA
    edited June 2003
    csimon said
    also be sure you have the FahCore_78 or later:

    [05:40:00] Folding@home Gromacs Core
    [05:40:00] Version 1.48 (May 7, 2003)
    Yeah, that's the one I have now. Let's see what happens when the next unit starts...

    Thanks everybody!
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited June 2003
    You cannot get another core version I dont think. It downloads automatically for a new set up for if the old one is deleted.
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited June 2003
    My machines are folding ridiculously faster now. Primesuspect you going down!
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited June 2003
    Go for the Top 10.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited June 2003
    mmonnin said
    You cannot get another core version I dont think.
    hehe ...got email? I got about 28+ copies of it! LOL:fold:
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited June 2003
    seversphere said
    My machines are folding ridiculously faster now. Primesuspect you going down!

    HOLY CRAP! I just looked for the first time in days, and I jumped from 15th to 11th place! W00T!

    Come and get me, seversphere. I'm gunning for Top 10.

    I'll get you yet, lasse!!!!!!! :ninja:
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited June 2003
    go play a game or encode a DVD set so I can catch up :D:fold:
  • seversphereseversphere
    edited June 2003
    I've had one comp shutdown and two freeze - the one that shutdown is a palomino and the other two are Tbreds. They all folded a few WUs then crashed. Hope it was just a fluke and not the Tbred bug.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited June 2003
    Temps buddy. Temps.
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