I checked it earlier and all i got was the red X's and stats below that...now this.
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Straight_ManGeeky, in my own wayNaples, FLIcrontian
edited January 2004
WELL, it seems they are updating on the half hour after the hour local to THEM, Central Standard Time, not every three hours on the hour. So, we are getting in looking a half-hour AFTER, and the stats update run is running, and server only can run so many "We're Updating!" pages WHILE updating.
Try looking at 7:30 or 10:30 [underline]their time[/underline], not 6:00-7:00 their time or 9:00-10:00 their time, they are also feeding stats to folks in UK (FutureMark) I THINK and server is busy doing that also. Server load and stats feeds part of it, rapid stats changes and large recalcs as more and more folks take up folding takes longer, too....
Server there cannot just tell 1,000 of us its updating and simultaneously DO it....
Hey Ageek, there is server load problems but this is about our Team page being singled out and blocked because a script is accessing our stats and lot's of it.
Straight_ManGeeky, in my own wayNaples, FLIcrontian
edited January 2004
Um, I can get in if I do as I said, REGULARLY and normally-- only time I have gotten that, 2-3 minutes later when retry I get that it is updating and not on the hour. Today and yesterday and day before, the 6:00 PM CST fetch and calc was from 6:34-7:14 PM. When they are busy, I use Statsman. Lots of us, lots of accesses by our team members as we all have been told where EOC's server is, and it can only gen so many instances of any one script at once. And while updating, NO feed stats scripts are run to end users surfing in.
Lessee, we have HOW many members it is tracking??? 400-some??? And how many look at half after the exact hour??? Look at 1.5 hours after the update "hour" instead. I have always been able to get in that way, about 90% of the time, even the last 3-5 days.
//EDIT/ADD: IF this is about S-M's server not being able to pick up, the offset in their pickup is busying out their server such that is cannot feed on the half hour as it is doing its pickup and calculation for a 400+memebr team plus most of the UK teams. FutureMark.co.uk is busy at same exact time frame +-10 minutes. Offset our pickups one hour to 1.5 hours, lower load there, problem maybe solved. Works for end users and derivative servers, find low load times.
Kinda ridiculous to block our whole team's stats in an effort to do this, someone could just as easily do this and target ANOTHER teams stats and there would be no way to find them.
All we need is the IP then. We can check it against visitors to the forum and see if its anyone who visits here.
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Straight_ManGeeky, in my own wayNaples, FLIcrontian
edited January 2004
Ok, thanks, Marc. That clears that up, but simply he has offset high load times from what is on "picking up" page. His (EOC admin's) server is not picking up starting at 6:00 CST, it is starting at about one-half hour AFTER the hour. EVERY 3 hours. And 400 people checking once to twice a day in evening US time is a LOT of hits in US evening time. Sheer numbers of team members make that so.
Ok, thanks, Marc. That clears that up, but simply he has offset high load times from what is on "picking up" page. His (EOC admin's) server is not picking up starting at 6:00 CST, it is starting at about one-half hour AFTER the hour. EVERY 3 hours. And 400 people checking once to twice a day in evening US time is a LOT of hits in US evening time. Sheer numbers of team members make that so.
John.
The problem is more complex than just heavy traffic. I know I'm in the habit of checking the stats every time they update, assuming I'm on the computer. I look at my own, and those near me in the standings. I do not try to view all 16 pages at the same time. I doubt anyone else does either.
I'm presently getting the stats updating message with the commodore 64 on it presently.
We definitely need for Jason to get in touch with us about the offending IP's or any other info he can give us so that we can get to the bottom of this. We definitely don't need to be known as the team that killed the rainbow stats.
yeah it is pretty aggravating that they would block our whole team, even though this stunt could be pulled by...welll....ANYONE who looks at the stats...ANYONE who has an internet connection, but sure, why not ban our whole team.
Dear god people, don't get peeved about this. You're still folding right??? You're not losing points right??? Then who really cares? It'll be fixed in due time, just give the guy who puts time and effort into this thing a chance.
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Damn now who is doing this?
I am going to send an email to him to find out whats up.
EDIT - Here we go - http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?threadid=79105
Try looking at 7:30 or 10:30 [underline]their time[/underline], not 6:00-7:00 their time or 9:00-10:00 their time, they are also feeding stats to folks in UK (FutureMark) I THINK and server is busy doing that also. Server load and stats feeds part of it, rapid stats changes and large recalcs as more and more folks take up folding takes longer, too....
Server there cannot just tell 1,000 of us its updating and simultaneously DO it....
Follow the link above.
Lessee, we have HOW many members it is tracking??? 400-some??? And how many look at half after the exact hour??? Look at 1.5 hours after the update "hour" instead. I have always been able to get in that way, about 90% of the time, even the last 3-5 days.
//EDIT/ADD: IF this is about S-M's server not being able to pick up, the offset in their pickup is busying out their server such that is cannot feed on the half hour as it is doing its pickup and calculation for a 400+memebr team plus most of the UK teams. FutureMark.co.uk is busy at same exact time frame +-10 minutes. Offset our pickups one hour to 1.5 hours, lower load there, problem maybe solved. Works for end users and derivative servers, find low load times.
John.
John.
-From the owner of eoc stats.
well...i stand corrected...i see the sigs are showing the server is down now
This is one clown, from one IP, doing this. Either through ignorance, or something else...
It is not The Team doing it.
John.
We definitely need for Jason to get in touch with us about the offending IP's or any other info he can give us so that we can get to the bottom of this. We definitely don't need to be known as the team that killed the rainbow stats.
i think we should make the best of it though
(runs off to make more comps start folding, in an effort to usurp the team)
I'll be using these stats from now on
http://stats.zerothelement.com/cgi-bin/folding3/render-users.pl?team=93
used to use em when EOC was down, forgot all about it though, better layout than EOC anyway
You would think it would be easier to block the IP, but whatever.
Any word from Jason?