EOC Stats Fubar?!

profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
edited January 2004 in Folding@Home
Guess what I just saw:
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  • TBonZTBonZ Ottawa, ON Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    I'm getting the more generic error page.
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    they are just updating the stats...just wait 20-30 mins and it will be fine. updates are every 3 hrs central time and last 15-30 mins
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited January 2004
    At first I thought it was a joke but I guess not.

    Damn now who is doing this?
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited January 2004
    fatcat wrote:
    they are just updating the stats...just wait 20-30 mins and it will be fine. updates are every 3 hrs central time and last 15-30 mins
    Yeah, I know about the updates. Look at the line in red in the picture I posted. :hrm:
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited January 2004
    Yeah I checked another teams stats and their's didnt have that.

    I am going to send an email to him to find out whats up.
  • TBonZTBonZ Ottawa, ON Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Ok, I just got the error, this is not good. We need to find out what's going on here.

    EDIT - Here we go - http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?threadid=79105
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    I checked it earlier and all i got was the red X's and stats below that...now this.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    WELL, it seems they are updating on the half hour after the hour local to THEM, Central Standard Time, not every three hours on the hour. So, we are getting in looking a half-hour AFTER, and the stats update run is running, and server only can run so many "We're Updating!" pages WHILE updating.

    Try looking at 7:30 or 10:30 [underline]their time[/underline], not 6:00-7:00 their time or 9:00-10:00 their time, they are also feeding stats to folks in UK (FutureMark) I THINK and server is busy doing that also. Server load and stats feeds part of it, rapid stats changes and large recalcs as more and more folks take up folding takes longer, too....

    Server there cannot just tell 1,000 of us its updating and simultaneously DO it.... :(:D
  • TBonZTBonZ Ottawa, ON Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Hey Ageek, there is server load problems but this is about our Team page being singled out and blocked because a script is accessing our stats and lot's of it.

    Follow the link above.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited January 2004
    I posted and am emailing Jason.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited January 2004
    mmonnin wrote:
    I posted and am emailing Jason.
    I posted, too. You type faster than I do. :smiles:
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited January 2004
    Mine was shorter.;)
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Um, I can get in if I do as I said, REGULARLY and normally-- only time I have gotten that, 2-3 minutes later when retry I get that it is updating and not on the hour. Today and yesterday and day before, the 6:00 PM CST fetch and calc was from 6:34-7:14 PM. When they are busy, I use Statsman. Lots of us, lots of accesses by our team members as we all have been told where EOC's server is, and it can only gen so many instances of any one script at once. And while updating, NO feed stats scripts are run to end users surfing in.

    Lessee, we have HOW many members it is tracking??? 400-some??? And how many look at half after the exact hour??? Look at 1.5 hours after the update "hour" instead. I have always been able to get in that way, about 90% of the time, even the last 3-5 days.

    //EDIT/ADD: IF this is about S-M's server not being able to pick up, the offset in their pickup is busying out their server such that is cannot feed on the half hour as it is doing its pickup and calculation for a 400+memebr team plus most of the UK teams. FutureMark.co.uk is busy at same exact time frame +-10 minutes. Offset our pickups one hour to 1.5 hours, lower load there, problem maybe solved. Works for end users and derivative servers, find low load times.

    John.

    John.
  • NecropolisNecropolis Hawarden, Wales Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    This is a bit worrying. What do the sig generators run off? Not that I am pointing fingers but we have to start by looking somewhere.
  • TBonZTBonZ Ottawa, ON Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Found what was killing the server... (Post #1)


    Well, I'm sure many of you often find the folding stats with a server overloaded message...

    I was noticing in the logs that one particular team had an enormous amount of hits... more than if every person on their team visited daily...

    Well, find out it has to be a script hitting 16 pages all at the same time (no doubt just for the data)...


    -From the owner of eoc stats.
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    profdlp wrote:
    Yeah, I know about the updates. Look at the line in red in the picture I posted. :hrm:

    well...i stand corrected...i see the sigs are showing the server is down now
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited January 2004
    Our stats DO NOT run off of his pages. Ours update every 2.5 hours or so his do every 3 hours. And I think ours was around before his.
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Kinda ridiculous to block our whole team's stats in an effort to do this, someone could just as easily do this and target ANOTHER teams stats and there would be no way to find them.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited January 2004
    mmonnin wrote:
    Our stats DO NOT run off of his pages. Ours update every 2.5 hours or so his do every 3 hours. And I think ours was around before his.
    Yes - we get the data straight from Stanford, same as EOC.

    This is one clown, from one IP, doing this. Either through ignorance, or something else...

    It is not The Team doing it.
  • NecropolisNecropolis Hawarden, Wales Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    All we need is the IP then. We can check it against visitors to the forum and see if its anyone who visits here.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Ok, thanks, Marc. That clears that up, but simply he has offset high load times from what is on "picking up" page. His (EOC admin's) server is not picking up starting at 6:00 CST, it is starting at about one-half hour AFTER the hour. EVERY 3 hours. And 400 people checking once to twice a day in evening US time is a LOT of hits in US evening time. Sheer numbers of team members make that so.

    John.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited January 2004
    Ageek wrote:
    Ok, thanks, Marc. That clears that up, but simply he has offset high load times from what is on "picking up" page. His (EOC admin's) server is not picking up starting at 6:00 CST, it is starting at about one-half hour AFTER the hour. EVERY 3 hours. And 400 people checking once to twice a day in evening US time is a LOT of hits in US evening time. Sheer numbers of team members make that so.

    John.
    The problem is more complex than just heavy traffic. I know I'm in the habit of checking the stats every time they update, assuming I'm on the computer. I look at my own, and those near me in the standings. I do not try to view all 16 pages at the same time. I doubt anyone else does either. :-/
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited January 2004
    We dont have 400 active folders on the team let alone 400 ppl you check the stats.
  • edited January 2004
    I'm presently getting the stats updating message with the commodore 64 on it presently.

    We definitely need for Jason to get in touch with us about the offending IP's or any other info he can give us so that we can get to the bottom of this. We definitely don't need to be known as the team that killed the rainbow stats. :rant:
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited January 2004
    Thats the normal update message. The error message when we try to access out individual stats with everyones dailies on it.
  • TheBaronTheBaron Austin, TX
    edited January 2004
    this is slightly aggravating.
    i think we should make the best of it though
    (runs off to make more comps start folding, in an effort to usurp the team)
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    yeah it is pretty aggravating that they would block our whole team, even though this stunt could be pulled by...welll....ANYONE who looks at the stats...ANYONE who has an internet connection, but sure, why not ban our whole team.

    I'll be using these stats from now on
    http://stats.zerothelement.com/cgi-bin/folding3/render-users.pl?team=93

    used to use em when EOC was down, forgot all about it though, better layout than EOC anyway
  • pseudonympseudonym Michigan Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Dear god people, don't get peeved about this. You're still folding right??? You're not losing points right??? Then who really cares? It'll be fixed in due time, just give the guy who puts time and effort into this thing a chance.
  • edited January 2004
    Doesn't matter. It was back again eariler today, so I imagine whoever/whatever it was, it's been fixed.

    You would think it would be easier to block the IP, but whatever.
  • edited January 2004
    Noo.. nevermind. We're still blocked.

    Any word from Jason?
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