A repair should leave all your programs intact. Drivers and updates will need to be reinstalled first tho.
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Straight_ManGeeky, in my own wayNaples, FLIcrontian
edited January 2004
Well, exception:
Running an HP repair from within Windows, they say to disable all uneeded programs and Antivirus. Reason, NAV is often enabled on those to script block, HP uses some scripts to repair. But, other than OEM boxes that tell you to, generics with non-OEM tweaked repairers do not need to really stop anything first. EVEN if you run recovery console from HD after installing it there and do some basic repairs from that.
Answers were right from pure Windows repair from XP CD, but many modern HPs do not come with one-- they have a repair\replace image on HD, often as first 4.87 GB of HD(Image made on DVD, copied onto drive in a semi-hidden partition).
So, if this is an HP that the book says to use F10 or HP repair software to fix something, might WANT to disable NAV (Norton Antivirus). I have better luck with Windows update with NAV disabled while updating also.
Just adding and amplifying.... (General word repair might mean fix, and not Repair Install)
Running an HP repair from within Windows, they say to disable all uneeded programs and Antivirus. Reason, NAV is often enabled on those to script block, HP uses some scripts to repair. But, other than OEM boxes that tell you to, generics with non-OEM tweaked repairers do not need to really stop anything first. EVEN if you run recovery console from HD after installing it there and do some basic repairs from that.
Answers were right from pure Windows repair from XP CD, but many modern HPs do not come with one-- they have a repair\replace image on HD, often as first 4.87 GB of HD(Image made on DVD, copied onto drive in a semi-hidden partition).
So, if this is an HP that the book says to use F10 or HP repair software to fix something, might WANT to disable NAV (Norton Antivirus). I have better luck with Windows update with NAV disabled while updating also.
Just adding and amplifying....
John.
Thanks for your reply, I am running XP Home on a Dell 2.4 with 1G ram.
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Straight_ManGeeky, in my own wayNaples, FLIcrontian
edited January 2004
Ok, for your case, do you have a Windows XP CD??? If you do, you can boot from CD and do a repiar install, or even try one thing first:
Boot from HD, when Windows just starts to boot, BEFORE the Widnows XP screen appears, press F8 once every half second until you get a menu with an option that starts "Last known Good..." Use down-arrow key on keyboard, and see if Windows fixes itself. This is something neat left in from the days of Windows 2K (2000).
Then if result is bad, let installer load on a CD boot and do a real repair install.
John.
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Straight_ManGeeky, in my own wayNaples, FLIcrontian
edited January 2004
BUT, if you told us what was happening, you might get an even easier fix....
Ok, for your case, do you have a Windows XP CD??? If you do, you can boot from CD and do a repiar install, or even try one thing first:
Boot from HD, when Windows just starts to boot, BEFORE the Widnows XP screen appears, press F8 once every half second until you get a menu with an option that starts "Last known Good..." Use down-arrow key on keyboard, and see if Windows fixes itself. This is something neat left in from the days of Windows 2K (2000).
Then if result is bad, let installer load on a CD boot and do a real repair install.
John.
Are you saying click on LAST KNOWN GOOD... or use the down arrow and click on what item, I went there and there are several options, what one should I use. Thanks
Are you saying click on LAST KNOWN GOOD... or use the down arrow and click on what item, I went there and there are several options, what one should I use. Thanks
None of them. Put the Windows XP CD in the CD-Rom drive and boot from it. You may need to go into your BIOS and change the first boot device to CD-Rom.
When you have done that it should come up "Press any key to boot from cd..." press something and it will come up.
Select install Windows XP and ignore the warnings untill you reach the point where it says "Repair an existing windows installation" and it should be pretty automatic from there.
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Straight_ManGeeky, in my own wayNaples, FLIcrontian
edited January 2004
You can do what Enverex said, or last known good-- yes, when Last Known Good is highlighted, press enter key on keyboard to select and do that, as it will pull in the most recent restore point made and undo a failed application install that might have messed things up. Have done that a few times on XP boxes, and it works.
With a virus problem, what Enverex said is best bet and then a virus software run as soon as the machine gets into XP.
You can do what Enverex said, or last known good-- yes, when Last Known Good is highlighted, press enter key on keyboard to select and do that, as it will pull in the most recent restore point made and undo a failed application install that might have messed things up. Have done that a few times on XP boxes, and it works.
"Last known good configuration" isn't anything to do with System Restore, it just rolls back the last few installed drivers to their previous versions (so this will still work even if system restore is turned off).
If you want to do a Repair install then do a repair install, there is no other proper way of doing it, they are all half-assed attempts which are likely to just cause more problems.
Why do you wont to do a Repair install anyway?
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Straight_ManGeeky, in my own wayNaples, FLIcrontian
edited January 2004
That is KINDA true. UNLESS the machine's admin has done a system state plus backup since then. For 2K, what you said WAS true, XP Pro has improvements on that, if the more recent backup and the initial install system state backup are in same folder. And one of XP's favorite things to do is hang when video or monitor drivers are wonky-- this is a legacy from WAY back that has not yet been fully fixed-- so in this case,with vidoe hangs, I would TRY rolling drivers back first, THEN do the equiv of a repair install if that did not work.
Because a system state backup has a complete registry file set in it, that system state rollback can deregister an app that is not REALLY compatible with XP also, and although the files will be there on HD the registry will not have entries and then most of it can simply be deleted in its home directory, and you at least have a working box to figure out the rest in that case.
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Running an HP repair from within Windows, they say to disable all uneeded programs and Antivirus. Reason, NAV is often enabled on those to script block, HP uses some scripts to repair. But, other than OEM boxes that tell you to, generics with non-OEM tweaked repairers do not need to really stop anything first. EVEN if you run recovery console from HD after installing it there and do some basic repairs from that.
Answers were right from pure Windows repair from XP CD, but many modern HPs do not come with one-- they have a repair\replace image on HD, often as first 4.87 GB of HD(Image made on DVD, copied onto drive in a semi-hidden partition).
So, if this is an HP that the book says to use F10 or HP repair software to fix something, might WANT to disable NAV (Norton Antivirus). I have better luck with Windows update with NAV disabled while updating also.
Just adding and amplifying....
John.
Thanks for your reply, I am running XP Home on a Dell 2.4 with 1G ram.
Boot from HD, when Windows just starts to boot, BEFORE the Widnows XP screen appears, press F8 once every half second until you get a menu with an option that starts "Last known Good..." Use down-arrow key on keyboard, and see if Windows fixes itself. This is something neat left in from the days of Windows 2K (2000).
Then if result is bad, let installer load on a CD boot and do a real repair install.
John.
John.
Are you saying click on LAST KNOWN GOOD... or use the down arrow and click on what item, I went there and there are several options, what one should I use. Thanks
None of them. Put the Windows XP CD in the CD-Rom drive and boot from it. You may need to go into your BIOS and change the first boot device to CD-Rom.
When you have done that it should come up "Press any key to boot from cd..." press something and it will come up.
Select install Windows XP and ignore the warnings untill you reach the point where it says "Repair an existing windows installation" and it should be pretty automatic from there.
With a virus problem, what Enverex said is best bet and then a virus software run as soon as the machine gets into XP.
John.
"Last known good configuration" isn't anything to do with System Restore, it just rolls back the last few installed drivers to their previous versions (so this will still work even if system restore is turned off).
If you want to do a Repair install then do a repair install, there is no other proper way of doing it, they are all half-assed attempts which are likely to just cause more problems.
Why do you wont to do a Repair install anyway?
Because a system state backup has a complete registry file set in it, that system state rollback can deregister an app that is not REALLY compatible with XP also, and although the files will be there on HD the registry will not have entries and then most of it can simply be deleted in its home directory, and you at least have a working box to figure out the rest in that case.
John.