Projector / YIR video

QCHQCH Ancient GuruChicago Area - USA Icrontian
edited June 2009 in Community
I am buying a 50' SVIDEO cable so we can run the Projector much easier than last few years. Also, I have some ideas to mount the projector using pipe clamps instead of zip ties. As long as I am around and people ask REALLY nicely, I am open to running the Projector.
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  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    please tell me the projector uses normal VGA also.....

    yea i wanted to talk to you about a "real" mount since we'll have a "real" projector screen this year for IC:YiR video
  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    No... M1, S Video, Composite, and Component only. My Rig that I hope to send with you has Component output and my laptop has S Video. We just need to transfer the thingy to one of them. S Video can do 480i the Component can handle the full 1080i.

    Trust me... is we can swing using my desktop, EVERYTHING will look awesome. Since I plan on having my rig in the mix instead off in a corner, I will try to place my rig as close to the projector spot as possible so we can get this thing done nicely!!!
  • GnomeQueenGnomeQueen The Lulz Queen Mountain Dew Mouth Icrontian
    edited May 2009
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  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    QCH2002 wrote:
    No... M1, S Video, Composite, and Component only. My Rig that I hope to send with you has Component output and my laptop has S Video. We just need to transfer the thingy to one of them. S Video can do 480i the Component can handle the full 1080i.

    Trust me... is we can swing using my desktop, EVERYTHING will look awesome. Since I plan on having my rig in the mix instead off in a corner, I will try to place my rig as close to the projector spot as possible so we can get this thing done nicely!!!

    .......

    the video is 800x600 because I assumed the projector did computer resolutions. I guess that makes me the ass.

    Yea, component is what we will have to use. Q give me a call when you can, I'm home all day. I believe you have my number.
  • UPSLynxUPSLynx :KAPPA: Redwood City, CA Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    I was afraid of that resolution issue. I presumed 800X600 was the known resolution so I didn't question it.

    We'll have to downscale somehow, or else there will be EXTREME amounts of cropping to the video. Essentially, we have two options. Loose much of the image during playback, or start the project over at 640X480 resolution.
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    UPSLynx wrote:
    I was afraid of that resolution issue. I presumed 800X600 was the known resolution so I didn't question it.

    We'll have to downscale somehow, or else there will be EXTREME amounts of cropping to the video. Essentially, we have two options. Loose much of the image during playback, or start the project over at 640X480 resolution.

    :werr::mean::mad::grr::grumble::shakehead
  • RyderRyder Kalamazoo, Mi Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    I know Lynx is the expert.. but NTSC standard should be fine for the projector :)

    NTSC standard: http://www.strata.com/support/3dmanual/ch13/ch13_7.html

    The projector is HD, so does Premiere let you do any HD resolutions?
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    RyderOCZ wrote:
    I know Lynx is the expert.. but NTSC standard should be fine for the projector :)

    The projector is HD, so does Premiere let you do any HD resolutions?

    doing the video in HD would make it 50 gigs ryder, as now we might break 20gigs

    anyways, enough talk about the video in this thread.

    BACK TO TOPIC:

    DON'T FORGET YER DEODERANT!!!
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    OMG RYDER HAS VGA PROJECTOR.... he just saved the world again.
  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    What? I'm confused... You mean my projector is too good to display the video? With my Component Cables you should be able to do the 800x600. Isn't 1080i greater than 800x600?
  • RyderRyder Kalamazoo, Mi Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    The output is the issue Q.

    800 x 600 is not a recognized resolution with regular "TV Type" output.

    800 is too tall for a regular TV, if you put that res, into the Composite (the yellow RCA video in jack), S-Video, or component inputs, it will "stretch or shrink" the output to accomodate the mode you are in.

    This will result in funky looking stuff, because the video was made in 800 x 600. This is what FC does not want.

    FC would have to re-encode (read.. do the whole project over) in a different Res to use this type of output. He can't just tell the program.. "hey, convert everything to this now" they have to manually start over.
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    pretty much what Ryder said.

    I assumed your projector Q was for computers, using VGA, DVI or HDMI and normal computer resolutions like 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 etc, and not a TV projector using composite, S-Video, Component using resolutions 640x480, 720x480, 1280x720, 1920x1080 etc.

    the video we did is 800x600, not a standard TV resoultion, but standard computer resolution. running it @ 1080i would be fugly.

    1080i is interlaced 540p resoultion.
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    and with that I'm still happy to bring your projector for ya. We just wont use it on the IC:YiR video.
  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited May 2009
    As long as there is a projector no sense bringing mine. But if there is still a need (HD bigscreen on the garage door for games or movie...) then, by all means, my projector is available.

    If it's not needed, I'd still like to hire you to transport a few things to the LAN. :D
  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    Am I still bringing my projector?
  • RyderRyder Kalamazoo, Mi Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    You do not have to no. You can if you like... in case the bulb explodes in mine.. LOL.
  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    As for the "screen" mentioned by Greg in the Rocky Horror Picture Show... What is it? I have been using painters canvas tarp suspended from the eves of my house. It looks VERY good. With a bit of tinkering, we could even mount it to poles at the end of the driveway by the tent so more people could see.
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    um, normal projector screen that has a stand and also rolls up was all I was thinking of...but a huge piece of white paper taped to a wall works also for me ;)
  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    Painters tarp... 6 x 10 is $20. Add in a few 20 cent eye hooks an some nylon rope... BOOM... Portable and washable Projector screen. ;)
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    QCH2002 wrote:
    Painters tarp... 6 x 10 is $20. Add in a few 20 cent eye hooks an some nylon rope... BOOM... Portable and washable Projector screen. ;)

    this is why I <3 Icrontic.
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    I have an old slide-show screen, the kind with a tripod, and ground-glass coating on the screen. I could see if there is room in the car to bring it if desired. (and if it's still in good shape after sitting in it's case in the attic for ten years (I forgot I had it until just now)).
  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    How big is the screen? I already have a 12 x 9 canvas tarp ready for my home use, I could pack that baby... Hanging it is simple once you have the eye hooks in. BTW, 12 x 6 = 165" of 1080i goodness!!!
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    size matters...
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    This one only measures 4.5ft. on the diagonal, but it has a ground glass surface. I don't think you understand the difference that a ground glass screen makes to the clarity and brightness of a projected image. (you can see the way it reacts to the flash on my camera in my already pretty bright garage). Although, this one has a little humidity damage near the top :( That's what I get for not storing it properly.

    If you don't want it, you don't want it, but this screen would let anyone within 100ft see your video clearly, while a larger garage door or untreated canvas will still only be clearly visible when standing right next to it. Let me know.
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  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    CB wrote:
    This one only measures 4.5ft. on the diagonal, but it has a ground glass surface.

    If you don't want it, you don't want it, but this screen would let anyone within 100ft see your video clearly, while a larger garage door or untreated canvas will still only be clearly visible when standing right next to it. Let me know.

    FYI, I had my Canvas screen up for my cousin's birthday party last month. It was VERY good quality... not as good as a real projection screen like yours but I know from 50 feet away the image was still REALLY good.

    The difference is SIZE. If Fatcat thinks 52" screen is good enough, cool. If not... With my projector and canvas I can display 165" diagonal as apposed to 52".
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    heh, you two.

    Q i'm gonna pickup your canvas

    CB if you want to bring your screen you can.

    I dont know which I will use til i have both here

    do I need to have a Mortal Kombat? :D
  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    No battle... just clarifying the quality of my canvas. I have first hand experience. I WILL admit that using a sheet SUCKED. It allowed too much light to penetrate the sheet and the image was washed out. I really don't have an opinion as to which surface you select as long as you have an option that allows for everyone to see the awesome video.
  • CBCB Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Der Millionendorf- Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    QCH2002 wrote:
    I really don't have an opinion as to which surface you select as long as you have an option that allows for everyone to see the awesome video.

    ^this.

    I'll put it in the car if there is extra room then, so that you have options.
  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    See... it's all about love... and technology. :D
  • fatcatfatcat Mizzou Icrontian
    edited June 2009
    its not all about boner?
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