Apple breaks Palm Pre syncing with v8.2.1

ThraxThrax 🐌Austin, TX Icrontian
edited July 2009 in Science & Tech

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  • MiracleManSMiracleManS Chambersburg, PA Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    I'm just curious how long this will go on until one of them finally says "fine I give up" or tries the legal route.
  • BuddyJBuddyJ Dept. of Propaganda OKC Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    It was only a matter of time. I wonder how this will pan out. Will Apple further lock down its store, or will Palm pay a licensing fee for the use of Apple's technology?
  • mertesnmertesn I am Bobby Miller Yukon, OK Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    Or will Palm sue Apple claiming an illegal monopoly and/or unfairly locking them out of iTunes?
    Of course Apple could probably find some DMCA charge to bring against Palm for circumventing their non-Apple device lockout.
  • BuddyJBuddyJ Dept. of Propaganda OKC Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    It all comes down to Palm drinking Apple's milkshake.
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  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    LOL, I love that scene.
  • _k_k P-Town, Texas Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    I am going to go home and watch that movie, thank you apple and thank you buddy J
  • djmephdjmeph Detroit Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    Thanks for the heads up, turning off Apple Software Update now.
  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    Something has to give. Apple has established a practical digital music distribution monopoly with an inferior product sold with slick marketing. Now they are leveraging their market position to limit your choices as a consumer on how you enjoy music purchased through their store.

    When will consumers wake up?
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    Inferior product?

    Inferior to what, exactly?
  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    Zune pass is a much better deal, the UI is better, the DRM free store is better. Ten downloads plus all you can eat for $14.99 is a stupid good deal compared to paying $1.29 per itune.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    Rented music vs. purchased music is a better deal?

    And UI is just opinion.
  • MrTRiotMrTRiot Northern Ontario Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    Thrax wrote:
    Rented music vs. purchased music is a better deal?

    And UI is just opinion.


    rented music...lol, that's a funny concept
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    I personally loathe the rented music model. I refuse to participate. I want to own the music I purchase.

    Although the DMCA almost makes it seem like renting sometimes....
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    Well, the hardware can be considered inferior in terms of poor codec support, no radio tuner; if those things were important to you, you wouldn't be buying an iPod anyway, though.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    Inferior from a nerd's perspective. You think John Q. Public cares about OGG or FLAC? Hell no.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    Hey, I qualified it fairly. If you were a nerd or an audiophile, you weren't looking to get an iPod in the first place.
  • Cliff_ForsterCliff_Forster Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    Guys, we have been over this. The zune pass includes ten songs to keep permanently each month, since they are DRM free, thats $13 in itunes value, so for $2 extra a month, rent all you want. It is a great deal. The Zune store has always supported DRM free music as well. Itunes is finally getting around to it, and hey, you have re download your collection DRM free for an extra cost, thats a great deal!!! Pay to un bork the files you already paid to own!!!

    If you think itunes offers a better value than Zune pass, then you my friend are a victim of Apples snazzy marketing, and I feel sorry for ya.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    You know I hate to disagree with you, Cliff (lul), but the math doesn't work for you. For $15 a month in both services, after a year of putting it into iTunes, I have 180 songs; after a year into a ZunePass, I have 120 songs. After 5 years, that's a 300-song gap.

    Economics says the ZunePass isn't better than iTunes+(Pandora, or Grooveshark, or LaLa, or myriad other free alternatives).
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    But what you aren't accounting for is the ability to have anything in the zune library on your zune. Which gives you the time to decide if you really want to spend your ten credits on a song or album.

    The two business models are different and people will decide which one works best for them. Obviously the different models appeal to different people because not everyone is exclusively using one or the other.

    Apple got into the market first, which allowed them to establish themselves. But lately, Microsoft has been doing a tremendous job both in hardware and software design and I look for them to give apple a run for their money. And now that DRM is beginning to disappear people will be able to make these choices once again as their collections will truly be portable.

    Me personally, I'm waiting for the ZuneHD. I wouldn't mind having an ipod, I like the interface, but they refuse to play wma.
  • ardichokeardichoke Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    I think you're all wrong. The superior platform is Napster! $5/mo., 5 free downloads per month (billed every 3 months, free downloads reset every 3 months) and unlimited streaming. Plus they give you a discount if you buy a full CD as opposed to purchasing tracks a la carte. For instance, I bought 21st Century Breakdown, an 18 track album, and it only used 12 of my free track credits. For those of you that like the "rental" model, they have a to-go service as well that's more expensive but lets you load up your player with as much content as you want.
  • airbornflghtairbornflght Houston, TX Icrontian
    edited July 2009
    That's what I subscribe to is napster to go which is essentially the zune pass without the download credits per month that the zune pass has. But I'm ok with that because I use napster for other reasons.
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