We can't nail AMD down for this. Sure, I've read a few things that look like FUD generators, like claiming that NVIDIA is totally abandoning the PC gaming market which even I find hard to believe. Ultimately NVIDIA's lack of transparency is to blame. If NVIDIA would have met the demands of the market and had a DX11 product at Windows 7 launch then this would be a non issue. If NVIDIA would just divulge the details of its new product, then it might only be a temporary issue.
NVIDIA was not forthcoming at the GPU developers conference where the unenvied Fermi. They lead you to believe that Fermi availability was not far away, and that for certain you would be able to get your hands on product by the holiday. Who here really thinks NVIDIA is going to do more than a paper launch in 2009? Hell, who thinks they will even have product that is widely available by Q2 of 2010?
Thats why Fermi is a "paper dragon". Its a fair criticism. NVIDIA will waive the promise in front of gamers in hopes that they will hold off on 58xx purchases long enough for them to finally get their act together. If your prepared to wait until the middle of next year to find out if that product delivers, knock yourself out, me, I'll enjoy my 5870 today.
If I'm reading what he said correctly, people above said that AMD called Hydra a paper-dragon. He was pointing out that AMD was actually calling NVIDIA's Fermi the paper-dragon, not hydra.
You read what Cliff said correctly, but AMD <i>also</i> called Hydra a "tiny paper dragon" directly to our face, which is why I said we would have more information soon.
You read what Cliff said correctly, but AMD <i>also</i> called Hydra a "tiny paper dragon" directly to our face, which is why I said we would have more information soon.
Well you gotta understand, I'm not privileged to your face, its a decent one and all....
I just had seen the marketing materials where AMD had refereed to Fermi as the paper dragon. I guess calling things paper dragons is all the rage at AMD. I do think it applies to Fermi. Hydra I'm not as sure?
I desperately want that desktop - nay, poster sized. I think I found the original, and it's only 799px wide. If I had money to burn, I'd totally try to clear the rights to it.
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We can't nail AMD down for this. Sure, I've read a few things that look like FUD generators, like claiming that NVIDIA is totally abandoning the PC gaming market which even I find hard to believe. Ultimately NVIDIA's lack of transparency is to blame. If NVIDIA would have met the demands of the market and had a DX11 product at Windows 7 launch then this would be a non issue. If NVIDIA would just divulge the details of its new product, then it might only be a temporary issue.
NVIDIA was not forthcoming at the GPU developers conference where the unenvied Fermi. They lead you to believe that Fermi availability was not far away, and that for certain you would be able to get your hands on product by the holiday. Who here really thinks NVIDIA is going to do more than a paper launch in 2009? Hell, who thinks they will even have product that is widely available by Q2 of 2010?
Thats why Fermi is a "paper dragon". Its a fair criticism. NVIDIA will waive the promise in front of gamers in hopes that they will hold off on 58xx purchases long enough for them to finally get their act together. If your prepared to wait until the middle of next year to find out if that product delivers, knock yourself out, me, I'll enjoy my 5870 today.
(..thrax and I share a face)
Well you gotta understand, I'm not privileged to your face, its a decent one and all....
I just had seen the marketing materials where AMD had refereed to Fermi as the paper dragon. I guess calling things paper dragons is all the rage at AMD. I do think it applies to Fermi. Hydra I'm not as sure?
Judge for yourself.
I desperately want that desktop - nay, poster sized. I think I found the original, and it's only 799px wide. If I had money to burn, I'd totally try to clear the rights to it.
My friends who work at NVIDIA say otherwise. I trust them over an AMD exec