On a more serious note: I don't see what the fuss is. Of course, I often don't when it comes to PC matters like this, but that's neither here nor there. Games are clearly a fantasy, and I do not believe they fundamentally imply or suggest players pick a direction on the moral compass.
Killing a fantasy baby in a fantasy universe on a device designed to escape reality doesn't mean I endorse killing babies.
TL;DR: I hate when organizations flip their shit over fantasy media running afoul of their missions. Can you manufacture outrage any harder?
Prime, Controversy wont sell if they get an AO rating, and as we have all pointed out before people wont buy a crappy game just because there is something dirty in it, the Guy Game, BMX XXX, Postal 2, all prime examples.
If the ESRB does not slap an AO on Dantes Inferno I would be surprised, and when they do, EA will be its own worst enemy because many major retail outlets will refuse to carry it.
Snarky, Cliff, Bobby and I were talking about this before I started writing and Snarky made a similar point about it being fantasy and being no different then killing any other person in a game.
Logically, I completely agree with that point, it's inconsistent of me to think this achievement and the ability to kill babies is wrong. That's absolutely true, I just *feel* like there's a subjective line that's been crossed.
If nothing else it's more controversy, good opportunity to have a conversation about these topics. I have no doubt that this was a good marking move on EA's part, I also highly doubt this would bump it to an AO rating but we haven't seen what all is in the game yet.
Prime, never played Doom 3, it's in the queue though.
I am buying this game after reading the above. I enjoyed Postal 2 way to much to not buy this game. Plus you got to represent Dante Alighieri. What what, party like its 1327.
If this game does get AO ill still get it seeing as how this is the second time the divine comedy pissed religious people off and the first time i've been around for it and plus i dont buyy from big retailers i like corner shops better.
As it's been stated, this is a brilliant marketing move on Visceral's part.
Yes, it's offensive. Yes, people will be really upset about it. Yes, it's completely tasteless. But that makes it no less brilliant. Even an AO rating would make it that much more desirable, and they would probably sell more copies just from that than they would on the regular open market (from what I've heard, it's a relatively craptastic game on its own).
It's kind of sad, but kids want all the things they can't, or are told they shouldn't have. Kids also want things that are perceived as edgy, or cool.
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I think people are, gasp, making a mountain out of a molehill.
Killing a fantasy baby in a fantasy universe on a device designed to escape reality doesn't mean I endorse killing babies.
TL;DR: I hate when organizations flip their shit over fantasy media running afoul of their missions. Can you manufacture outrage any harder?
If the ESRB does not slap an AO on Dantes Inferno I would be surprised, and when they do, EA will be its own worst enemy because many major retail outlets will refuse to carry it.
(Or any other cherubic, beweaponed enemy in many other games, for that matter)
Logically, I completely agree with that point, it's inconsistent of me to think this achievement and the ability to kill babies is wrong. That's absolutely true, I just *feel* like there's a subjective line that's been crossed.
If nothing else it's more controversy, good opportunity to have a conversation about these topics. I have no doubt that this was a good marking move on EA's part, I also highly doubt this would bump it to an AO rating but we haven't seen what all is in the game yet.
Prime, never played Doom 3, it's in the queue though.
A) Gives press to the game
B) Makes people want to kill them more
C) Doesn't make EA remove the achievement
In other words: it solves nothing, and actually Streisands the whole situation.
Yes, it's offensive. Yes, people will be really upset about it. Yes, it's completely tasteless. But that makes it no less brilliant. Even an AO rating would make it that much more desirable, and they would probably sell more copies just from that than they would on the regular open market (from what I've heard, it's a relatively craptastic game on its own).
It's kind of sad, but kids want all the things they can't, or are told they shouldn't have. Kids also want things that are perceived as edgy, or cool.