Left 4 Dead 2's two million unit killing spree

UPSLynxUPSLynx :KAPPA:Redwood City, CA Icrontian
edited December 2009 in Gaming

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  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited December 2009
    Lynx wrote:
    All this goes to show that the allegations of L4D2 being ‘a full priced expansion pack’ are inaccurate.

    Logic fallacy. Come on, Bobby. Opinions can't be inaccurate, and sales don't disprove opinions.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2009
    No, but the figures do show that most people blatantly disagree. Opinions can't be wrong, but they can be misguided. ;)
  • UPSLynxUPSLynx :KAPPA: Redwood City, CA Icrontian
    edited December 2009
    Did you buy the game? Have you played it extensively? Still think the same way?

    You're wrong.

    The game is bigger than the original. There are many new gameplay modes. There are scores of new weapons and items. Four totally new campaigns with new play mechanics, pacing, and intensity. Re-tooled AI director that does more than zombie placement, but also weapon placement, world entity placement, weather effects, and more. Completely redesigned gore system. New matchmaking systems. New in-game assets and models - no entities were re-used, returning zombie types were re-skinned and modeled.

    That is quite the expansion pack.

    Everyone is so quick to bark at Valve for releasing a new game in a single year's time. Why? Is it because we've become accostomed to 'Valve time'? If they don't take 3/6/10 years to develop a game, it's a ripoff? Even if they plan on supporting both the new and old products?

    It is no different than a yearly call of duty, or Prince of Persia, or any other franchise that produces yearly products. People don't complain about those titles. But Valve tries it ONCE, and everyone becomes indignant. How dare they break their cycle of multi-year development cycles.

    To assume a one year development cycle means a shoddy, re-used product is ignorance at it's best.
  • TiberiusLazarusTiberiusLazarus Icrontian
    edited December 2009
    Who let Lynx|rage out of his cage? Someone get the muzzle and get those tranquilizer darts ready. This one's gonna be hard to drop.
  • GargGarg Purveyor of Lincoln Nightmares Icrontian
    edited December 2009
    This thing were everybody's right and arguing different points happens on the Internet all the time.

    In other news, the UK seems to be all about online petitions. I wonder what the implications are for that.
  • _k_k P-Town, Texas Icrontian
    edited December 2009
    Bobby have you played the game a lot because the AI director isn't as revamped as you think. The demo easily showed that if a team strings out over a map they can easily block the AI director from spawning common over the map. The director used to spawn pills, med-packs, weapons, and supplies in different locations or not at all before until they limited it. Though it seems they have corrected the lop sided nature of the director so that both teams get the same resources now just generally not spawned in the same locations.

    I don't BELIEVE anyone has spent time saying that there is not enough content to justify a second game. Though the weapon ammunition changes are really strange, boomer nerf sucks, few decent hunter pounce areas(25s), common can't be damaged some times while getting up(old issue), and clipping issues with melee weapons.

    The game still feels really sloppy in accuracy to me, I went back and played a l4d game at a LAN and the quick twitch and accuracy that I was used to was still there and showed exactly how evident its lack in L4D2 was.
  • edited December 2009
    Just so you guys know, it's possible to have an incorrect opinion.

    What if it were my opinion that the sky isn't blue? Would you agree then, that because it's my opinion, that I have the right to think that the sky isn't blue?
  • shwaipshwaip bluffin' with my muffin Icrontian
    edited December 2009
    I'm colorblind. The sky is gray.

    (ps, i'm not colorblind)
  • BobbyDigiBobbyDigi ? R U #Hats ! TX Icrontian
    edited December 2009
    An allegation is not an opinion. An allegation is a claim of a fact.

    If you claim a fact that is not true, you are wrong.

    -Bobby
  • edited December 2009
    I haven't played either installment of the left for dead franchise...

    But my opinion is that the second is lacking by comparison.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited December 2009
    And you cannot have an opinion about the content of a fact. Facts are truth - by their nature, not opinion, for they cannot be debated or changed.

    And Chip, what are you basing your opinion on if you've played neither? Just wondering.
  • ShortyShorty Manchester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2009
    Gargoyle wrote:
    In other news, the UK seems to be all about online petitions. I wonder what the implications are for that.
    Hardly. That is the usual skewered BBC reporting.

    The e-petitions incentive has been operating for a number of years in the UK and so far has achieved nothing. It's a slick marketing campaign from the government to make the UK people believe they actually have a say. Trust me, we have about as much say as you guys do with your government.

    NIL.
  • edited December 2009
    Snarkasm wrote:
    And Chip, what are you basing your opinion on if you've played neither? Just wondering.


    Absolutely nothing. I just wanted to join. I'm a joiner.
  • edited December 2009
    Absolutely nothing. I just wanted to join. I'm a joiner.

    Plus I wanted to illustrate the fickle nature of opinion. For kicks.
  • SnarkasmSnarkasm Madison, WI Icrontian
    edited December 2009
    I like the cut of your jib.
  • GrimnocGrimnoc Marion, IN
    edited December 2009
    Snarkasm wrote:
    I like the cut of your jib.

    Fantastic! One million bonus points to you for using this phrase.
  • GrimnocGrimnoc Marion, IN
    edited December 2009
    I haven't played either installment of the left for dead franchise...

    You sir, are a bloody liar.
  • edited December 2009
    Grimnoc wrote:
    You sir, are a bloody liar.

    I have played either near enough to draw any sort of conclusion as to their quality. Not reliably, at least.
  • GrimnocGrimnoc Marion, IN
    edited December 2009
    I have played either near enough to draw any sort of conclusion as to their quality. Not reliably, at least.

    You have played either? Hmmm? HMMMMMMMMMMMMM?
  • edited December 2009
    Grimnoc wrote:
    You have played either? Hmmm? HMMMMMMMMMMMMM?

    Sir, is that meant to correct my diction ("neither" would have been a more apt choice), or are you calling the truth of my statement into question?

    I will paint this town red with your injun blood either way.
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