Some people who have upgraded to 12GB from 8GB and said they saw no improvement in their 64bit systems or 64bit programs they run. (like they are experiencing a software limitation in the amount of ram access, which is odd for a 64bit program on a 64bit OS)
It would be interesting to see performance comparisons with 8GB, 12GB and this 24GB Kit. for Cinebench R10, 3DS Max, Maya, Premiere, CAD, Revit, Lightroom, and Photoshop CS4.
RAM follows one basic rule - upgrading is only going to help you if you're using 100% of what you already have.
For memory-hungry apps, it could indeed be of significant benefit to have 24GB of RAM in the PC. However, for current gaming usage, this is overkill to the point of using an ICBM to swat a fly. The "practical" maximum for current gamers likely falls at around the 6GB point, with 12GB being comfortable for a long time to come.
I remember reading the review some time back where 2 GB of ram was tested against 4 GB for performance. The 4 GB showed some improvement, but not a HUGE gain.
People will put 24 GB in a computer just because they can. And because they have more money than brains.
I remember reading the review some time back where 2 GB of ram was tested against 4 GB for performance. The 4 GB showed some improvement, but not a HUGE gain.
People will put 24 GB in a computer just because they can. And because they have more money than brains.
It's not difficult for me to run out of 8gb of ram running matlab. I would love to have enough ram to do whatever i wanted.
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You probably don't care because you just need 2 gb to run ie6 and wow. But for scientific computing, it's _awesome_.
This is an excellent example of a case where having that amount of RAM would be beneficial. The expense of the memory can be justified in time saved in cases like this.
The point I was trying to make above is that for a gaming system, it's a waste. You don't need more than 6 gigs for even the most demanding game on the market today.
Ah, gotcha... just wanted to make sure my comment hadn't been misinterpreted as an advocation to simply not buy 24GB. It definitely would have its uses... gaming just isn't one of them.
I remember those 32bit people who were all claiming that 2GB is all you need and 4GB didn't perform with enough of a gain to justify the cost. ....Wait I just blogged on Icrontic about someone I meet who was all up in my grill about only needing 2GB. I wish I would have told him to get his 32bit thinking out of my 64bit life, he was so out of his game.
Most Games are still 32bit, which caps at 1.5-3GB depending on how it's programed due to 32bit limitations...I'm not familiar with the few games that are 64bit to know if there is a ram cap in the program. but I expect that they might access the full 192GB if you had that much.
I agree if your not using 100% of your ram adding more ram wont help, but it should help data intensive programs like CAD, Photoshop, and maya. (yes, the people I know who upgraded from 8GB to 12GB were and continue to use 100% of their ram, with minimal performance differences)
Most Games are still 32bit, which caps at 1.5-3GB depending on how it's programed due to 32bit limitations...I'm not familiar with the few games that are 64bit to know if there is a ram cap in the program. but I expect that they might access the full 192GB if you had that much.
There's a pretty significant difference between having access to it and actually needing it. A 64-bit game may be capable of addressing an enormous heap of RAM, but if the game itself only occupies 8GB on your hard drive, then there's no way it's ever going to use 24GB of RAM.
Also, superfetch is good stuff. Doesn't justify 24GB for your average user, but it does justify buying twice as much as you absolutely need, IMO.
People who know they need it will buy it without batting an eye. People who read a review that uses games or "typical" applications as a reference will see it as unnecessary. The world keeps turning.
Side note about superfetch - if you haven't got an SSD, it's actually worth it to use a flash drive for ReadyBoost. RAID arrays of standard platters may sustain a high transfer rate, but seek time even on a six-gazillion drive RAID0 is still limited by read head movement. I find that having a Readyboost flash drive makes my gaming PC feel jumpier.
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It would be interesting to see performance comparisons with 8GB, 12GB and this 24GB Kit. for Cinebench R10, 3DS Max, Maya, Premiere, CAD, Revit, Lightroom, and Photoshop CS4.
For memory-hungry apps, it could indeed be of significant benefit to have 24GB of RAM in the PC. However, for current gaming usage, this is overkill to the point of using an ICBM to swat a fly. The "practical" maximum for current gamers likely falls at around the 6GB point, with 12GB being comfortable for a long time to come.
People will put 24 GB in a computer just because they can. And because they have more money than brains.
And because its awesome, count me in.
edit:
You probably don't care because you just need 2 gb to run ie6 and wow. But for scientific computing, it's _awesome_.
This is an excellent example of a case where having that amount of RAM would be beneficial. The expense of the memory can be justified in time saved in cases like this.
The point I was trying to make above is that for a gaming system, it's a waste. You don't need more than 6 gigs for even the most demanding game on the market today.
Most Games are still 32bit, which caps at 1.5-3GB depending on how it's programed due to 32bit limitations...I'm not familiar with the few games that are 64bit to know if there is a ram cap in the program. but I expect that they might access the full 192GB if you had that much.
I agree if your not using 100% of your ram adding more ram wont help, but it should help data intensive programs like CAD, Photoshop, and maya. (yes, the people I know who upgraded from 8GB to 12GB were and continue to use 100% of their ram, with minimal performance differences)
There's a pretty significant difference between having access to it and actually needing it. A 64-bit game may be capable of addressing an enormous heap of RAM, but if the game itself only occupies 8GB on your hard drive, then there's no way it's ever going to use 24GB of RAM.
THIS is why I'm always buying RAM.
Also, superfetch is good stuff. Doesn't justify 24GB for your average user, but it does justify buying twice as much as you absolutely need, IMO.
People who know they need it will buy it without batting an eye. People who read a review that uses games or "typical" applications as a reference will see it as unnecessary. The world keeps turning.
Side note about superfetch - if you haven't got an SSD, it's actually worth it to use a flash drive for ReadyBoost. RAID arrays of standard platters may sustain a high transfer rate, but seek time even on a six-gazillion drive RAID0 is still limited by read head movement. I find that having a Readyboost flash drive makes my gaming PC feel jumpier.